cody and alli simpson wiki buy lotensin online uk no prescription can lexapro 10 mg get you high lansoprazole 30 mg price indocin drug canadian pharmacy can you get micardis over the counter online sale of lanoxin calcium carbonate not generic best online pharmacy generic demadex purchase doxycycline hcl buy fluconazol online from uk celexa 40 mg dose what percentage of people gain weight on celexa buy premarin tablets mexico buy viagra super active tablets canada mobic pills shop amantadina clorfenamina paracetamol para que sirve zentel generic name indocin dose for acute gout cefixime capsules composition tcm american ginseng benefits buy anteovin usa purchase erythromycin eye ointment topical testosterone cream for men tamoxifen citrate canada buy nolvadex medical names water pills wellbutrin generic reviews furosemide without prescription canada metformin over the counter uk tadalafil 20 mg tabletten ginseng 20 mg trazodone in italia voltaren worldwide sales safe glucofage no prescription buy amantadine boots pharmacy arjuna uk no prescription buy brand cialis online pharmacy buy atacand new zealand online avandamet tablets price med cab toprol how to use tamoxifen 20 mg where do i prinivil in usa us online pharmacy no prescription terramycin yasmin daji miss india 1966 metformin al 1000 beipackzettel how to buy metrogel in canada purchase mentat ds syrup online comprar caverta original what age do i need viagra lopid discounts codes buy 52 without prescription buy lisinopril pills buy tadacip online effexor xr pas cher retino a cream 0 025 online canada fast delivery quetiapinum where can i buy it cialis sublingual no prrescription elavil buy online us mexican pharmacy order zofran voltaren arthritis medication tinidazole from protozoa avodart suprax online coupon code topamax for men sale in uk generic phexin buy canada buy riperdal online no prescription uk buy mirapex pills in the mexico simplotan diarrhea no prescription chloromycetin flomax noprescrition needed canada online pharmacy furosemide 20 mg oral tablet zithromax dosage for chlamydia and gonorrhea robaxin 500mg cost over the counter substitute for keflex minocycline cheap uk pharmacy trial erection packs 3 canadian source buying xenical online best site get alti doxycycline get maxaman las vegas etodolac 5mg tablets where to buy permethrinum buy clomifene low cheap price purchase demadex mg lantus dose increase the online drugstore pulmicort canadian pharmacy disulfiramum ventolin or generic long time side effects isotretin beta val without prescription pills compazine online in usa retin a 0,025 noprescrition needed canada online pharmacy cheap valtrex no prescription long term side effects of sildenafil serevent medication guide prometrium costco doxycycline buy online mexico redustat 120 mg dosis lowest priced adalat levlen medicine children trial erection packs 3 canada buyers of skelaxin canada clomid success rate infertility can buy voveran sr online online glucotrol purchase order amoxil on line mexico nitroglycerin online in usa ginseng energy now reviews mentax generic equivalent where do i buy panax ginseng brand retin a gel 0,1 buy comprar tadapox original en madrid side effects cymbalta weight gain where to buy tamoxifen citrate prescription can you take zoloft daily what is the cipro dosage for dogs how much does cialis daily use cost pharmacy cytotec without a prescription from canada trandate canadian online how to order famvir generic etodolac cost cruelty free drugstore makeup where purchase zovirax mentat best online non prescription pharmacy acai pills online in the canada unisom australia price better than vistaril ordering ponstel india how to use penegra prednisone over the counter uk best online pharmacy generic levaquin overnight prices aricept purchase hoodia online purchase xenical generic india where to purchase retin a glucovance drug in canada pharmacy cheapest vytorin to buy discount aloprim from canada what are the side effects of prednisolone 5mg order medication online australia florida anteovin is brand viagra legal in uk what does lasix pill look like ponstel for daily use zenegra from uk serevent 100mg cheap levitra super active for purchase best online pharmacy review no prescription actonel drug in fr pharmacy best colchicine prices where to get metocarbamol pct hydrochlorothiazide mail order buy cheap kamagra online uk jelly pregnancy test calculator free trileptal echeck original viagra rezeptfrei bestellen order celebrex online canada buy accutane 40 mg online prescription can buy motilium online cialis brand name sale cheap doksazosin lek with prescription generic anteovin canada augmentin canadian online generic for accutane cost generic pills for colospa glyset buy canada aleve online order generic fml forte motilium to purchase without a prescription buy 40 cheap accutane mg zoloft without a prescription from australia buy glycomet 50 can you get high off sertraline hcl 100mg online pharmacy differin capoten cheap mexico pharmacy over the counter medicine alti doxycycline atrovent generico walmart alliston ontario hours dapoxetine generic name generic tretinoin 0,05 usa pharmacy nombre del viagra para mujer where to buy zanaflex with amex amantadine medicine toprol xl where can i buy it brahmi rasayana medicine where do i tamoxifen in india buy oxytrol perth australia how to use l tryptophan liv 52 where can i buy it what is the generic name for elavil buy obelit online us no prescription buy tinidazole pills in the india common side effects of coumadin list of prescription water pills amlodipinbesilat cheap canada pharmacy zyprexa zydis 5 mg metformin online india safe to buy generic omnicef from usa adalat mail order india prednisolona drug in canada pharmacy suprax canada price buy zofran usa orlistat generico cuanto cuesta american claravis tadalis to buy in the usa without a prescription noroxin canada pharmacy rosuvastatin price alavert over the counter canada slimex 100mg buy discount buspar from usa comprar beta val original en madrid to buy septilin buying aceon in manchester post cycle therapy cleocin cheap pain meds dogs safe pulmicort no precription zyrtec drug canadian pharmacy buy antara xr without prescription buy retin a 0,025 inhaler canada vagifem to buy in england brand cialis from usa cheap arimidex buy buy kelnor online canada florinef usa glucovance delivery cheapest diprolene tablets uk cialis professional buy without benadryl pill shortage what is clomid steroids hong kong buy antivert us accutane generic mexico cheap diclofenac 100mg xenical generic price lisinopril side effects after long term use buy tretinoin 0,05 online no prescription usa purchase permethrinum online no prescription nizagara cheap australia pharmacy generic fucidin no prescription doxycycline prescription online hydrochlorothiazide medicine price is vigra the same as liviyra prostate cancer drug finasteride bupron cheap mexico pharmacy rogaine 2 pharmacy mail order purchase mevacor on line in uk walgreens claritin generic isotretin to buy in the canada without a prescription can we trust minocycline online over the counter olistat exelon with no rx acheter avapro pas cher what is sildenafil coversyl fda approved to buy without prescription norco bikes review lipitor in canada approval zantac india no prescription yaz online apo paroxetine 20mg side effects generic from rumalaya forte generic paypal donate link paroxetine dosage doxycycline dose for treatment of chlamydia buy celebrex in uk diarex from australia buy zebeta tablets mexico buy noroxin tablets us calan usa sale buy clotrimazole and betamethasone dipropionate no prescription cheapest place to buy provera singulair buy usa where do i clomifene in canada cardura fast india how long to take cleocin endep 10 mg cost donde puedo comprar live view en mexico best site for desyrel ranitidine tablets uses generic lipothin safe cheap canadian inderal no prescription what is the correct dosage of cafergot rumalaya forte delivery order finasteride canada safe to buy generic retin a 0,05 from uk best place to buy coreg in india generic stromectol uk pharmacies online that sell benicar premarin canadian source cialis for daily use canadian pharmacy voveran sr sold over counter cam you buy lotrisone canadian keflex legal us liposafe tablets uses aviane 28 pharmacy order pastillas para abortar cytotec modo de uso order generic dulcolax where to buy movalis in canada safely current price luvox generic extendaquin uk paypal order amitriptyline migraine comprar wellbutrin en argentina online prevacid india levitra super active from usa pharmacy generic viagra soft what is roaccutan cialis sublingual canada overnight delivery procardia from usa pharmacy ropinirole tablets side effects a typical aspirin tablet contains 324 mg of aspirin furosemide drug store online buy tretinoin 0,025 pills in the us liposafe without a prescription from australia retin a 0 025 side effects uk buy toradol overseas non prescription erexor pharmacy us pharmacies online that sell actoplus differin prescription canada get nimotop las vegas estrace online india intrathecal baclofen therapy best site get elocon buy bentyl no prescription long best site for eldepryl buying dyazide using paypal venlor from usa acivir pills dose metformin no prescription compare prices ordering metronidazole can you buy atacand over the counter in germany acai berry diet paypal safe retino a cream 0,05 no prescription lawrence walter in india what drug category is zetia does alli work over the counter diet drug order otomax pills how to get promethazine codeine syrup in canada doxycycline 100mg dosage for chlamydia tamsulozin supplier in uk can u buy flagyl over counter best male erectile dysfunction treatment getting a prescription for accutane bula de remedio sertralina 50mg kamagra 100mg oral jelly ajanta pharma mail order generic claravis original flunil online fast esperal deleviery what is methotrexate used for to treat mexico pharmacies online that sell eurax comprar vistaril en argentina buy zyprexa online mexico no prescription dapoxetine sildenafil uk tulasi overnight pharmacy uk buy accuran without prescription how much is viagra to buy how to take keflex capsules very cheap nordette order imitrex on line canada erythromycin topical solution purchase speman delivery uk retin a without rx danazol medicine aldactone overnight pharmacy periactin comprar can we trust dilantin online buy orlistat online overnight diamox pills online in the uk medicine cholestoplex prescription pharmacy frumil online ordering where do i acai in usa inhouse drugstore coupon best place to buy benadryl in canada chloromycetin without subscription terramycin ophthalmic ointment reviews #1 canadian drug store to buy viagar can you order eldepryl renagel drug in canada pharmacy buy lozol 100mg online human performance enhancement drugs crestor 10mg mais barato acai over counter no prescription beconase aq florida prevacid code red 7 male enhancement calan online sales how to purchase prednisone online buy apo furosemida pills in the india did anybody order viagra online purchasing fincar online where can i get leukeran pills a good web page to buy accuran with no script can i order ampicillin online chloramphenicol prices cvs ampicillin online legally minoxidil boots pharmacy ordering low dose cardura best place to buy revatio in australia skelaxin pas cher italie non prescription prozac pilex maximum dosage liv 52 with prescription discount canadian pharmacy vpxl generic cleocin gel overnite shipping toradol medication dose buy ventolin visa where to buy amlodipin with visa isoniazid drug schedule zestoretic pills online in the usa drug market order requip walmart albuterol inhaler price generic drug for combivent inhaler mobic discount no prescription zanaflex india no prescription order lanoxin from india without prescription cabgolin noprescrition needed canada online pharmacy lidocaine spray premature ejaculation wellbutrin rx online sale augmentin bula do micardis 40 mg domperidone 10mg tablets side effects list of tesco stores selling buspar cialis lilly vendors on line usa canadian levitra buy allopurinol tablets australia nystatin and triamcinolone acetonide cream usp buy zantac syrup for dogs acquistare topamax in italia lithium online ordering cvs pharmacy valtrex online ampicilina overnight delivery is it safe to order lamisilate what are luvox tablets used for cipro india travel buy erexin v online us no prescription buy pravachol singapore cefadroxil manufacturer india natural thyroid medication for dogs novo domperidone 10mg side effects benadryl online forum prescription cheapest reviews on extendaquin florinef from usa pharmacy cleocin capsules dosage western drug female viagra proventil no script mercury drug philippines online price list how to order tizanidina buy benicar online no prescription does cialis come in a generic form flagyl for body odor best place to buy cialis professional in australia almetec mexico companies only coversyl delivery female viagra online bestellen how to use flovent inhaler with spacer buy arjuna online without prescription generic name for yagara snovitra super power online bestellen biaxin 500 mg reviews fluconazol online viagra kaufen berlin singulair discount coupons can you get high off gabapentin buy carvedilolo low cheap price purchase disulphiram in canada order flomax in buy differin in uk type 2 diabetes medication metformin low acivir pills prescription 200mg is albendazole safe for dogs dapoxetine generic in india where can i get erection packs 1 from what does suhagra zanaflex order online no prescription celebrex 100mg tablets valtrex 20mg tab can you buy the birth control patch online indian generics online retino a cream 0,025 buspar on line in the india where to buy baclofen with echeck best price for real zedd buy generic prometrium online with prescription is there a shortage of lanoxin voltaren buy online canada buy cabergoline research chemical nizoral 2 percent for sale us pharmacy online nitrofurantoin hoodia in the uk diflucan canada companies only riperdal birth control online mexico detrol wanted online review order januvia from canada without prescription cilest from uk can buy trandate online what is emsam drugs femara medication infertility where to buy cozaar cheap hcg and nolvadex pct cycle order rogaine 5 online without rx what does phenergan generic drug altace india pharmacy quetiapinum pills buy generic for advair diskus 250 50 long term side effects of delta cortef cipralex pills online in the usa best place to buy baridium online buy nitroglycerin online australia no prescription buy avodart online no prescription united states testosterone therapy for women side effects purchase generic bentyl flonase generic release date tadapox from india arzomicin sublingual dosage is fucidin h good for acne fexofenadine 180 mg otc famvir 250 mg clozaril wanted online review buy nolvadex online with no prescription riperdal legal us minocycline uk no prescription side effects of danocrine danazol buy albendazole 40 etodolac uk online gabapentin tablets side effects buy viagra brand avapro online store canada and lamisil western drug vasodilan kamagra oral jelly side effects uk muscle relaxant tablets what is lanoxin classification long time side effects nizagara overseas pharmacy no prescription fluoxetina co diovan wiki generic drug for coreg cr can you get high from zanaflex atenolol tenormin 25 mg buy mometasona canada cheapest place to buy levothyroxin paxil lawsuit in canada cheapest lithium tablets uk is diakof legal in uk neurontin mg order neurontin 40 mg pharmacy i pill trial erection packs 1 website what is accutane made up of hydrodiuril pills sweat comprar microzide original en madrid india pharmacies online that sell stediril what is the cost of generic femara canadian pharmacy rhinocort buy sinequan mg online glucotrol pricing drug market order venlor order lopressor from australia without prescription can you buy premarin in ireland best place buy citalopram pct buy pilex no prescription is mail order revatio safe betnovate online purchasing tretinoin 0,05 online keflex noprescrition needed uk online pharmacy paroxetine overnight shipping prescription order trial erection packs 3 birth control online canada canada diprolene tablets online generic albenda canada maxalt brand order eurax online in us very cheap sertralina emoquette online from india levitra kaufen in deutschland acheter xenical en ligne abilify sales 2011 exelon online overnight shipping where to buy cheap generic menosan how to take stediril mg hyaluronic acid daily use reviews how to get off cymbalta safely amazon liposafe uk buy triamcinolone side effects women viagra for sale uk only online pharmacy free levitra trial offer mail order generic lantus is propecia over the counter what is apo hydrochlorothiazide used for lidocaine hydrocortisone acetate order generic estro where can i buy fluoxetina online without a prescription female cialis noprescrition needed usa online pharmacy safe place order snovitra super power where to buy cheap generic provera v gel online no prescription riperdal buy online uk cost of amoxil lisinopril hctz order online buy canadian detrol acheter mobic doxycycline hyclate side effects anxiety mail order propecia safe place order ortho tri cyclen cheapest zyrtec where to buy tenormin without a prescription ginseng new zealand comprar diclofenac gel online over the counter promethazine with codeine syrup differin side effects eyes amlodipinbesilat cheap mexico pharmacy buy indocin tablets mexico where can i get viagra in toronto clonidine online pharmacy decadron no prescription needed dogs online pharmacy buy vermox lov cost trimox bactrim antibiotic usage order allegra d canada online better than tamsulozin best place to buy zenegra in australia best prices for genuine viagra online what do elavil pills look like online pharmacy canada no presription nitro glycerine s generic prograf switzerland levaquin on line in the india zithromax from pharmacy india citalopram price altace without a transcript prescription how can i make viagra work better sarafem sale eltroxin availability in uk viagra samples free by mail buy cardura canada buy tadalis canada viagra professional online purchase discount estradiol valerate from canada how to take skelaxin trial erection packs 1 online forum arava from china hartley pharmacy nyc amsterdam canada drugs propecia alli diet pill discount coupon how much does zyrtec cost at cvs to buy alesse periactin mg india ordering alesse mexico what does stediril online pharmacy uk suhagra reviews on asacol seroflo where to purchase lasix water pills side effects where do i erythromycin in uk pulmicort from canada como comprar levaquin zovirax on line in the india best price fertomid over the counter medicine that acts as retin a compare prices ciplox zydis delivery growing ginseng new zealand viagra patent expiration extension zentel side effects in children breast cancer forum xeloda zyrtec or claritin for kids where to buy allegra shoes buy vasotec low cheap price buy yagara mg online for best price malegra fxt buy flovent tablets buy anastrozolo online cheap buy lasilix without prescription cholestoplex sublingual dosage purchase medrol on line in canada how much does wellbutrin generic cost exelon patch 5 transdermal patch non prescription fluss 40 pharmacy where to buy emsam with echeck get etabus las vegas viagraa halvalla cialis super active uk brand name what is depo provera used for generic uk paypal anteovin xenical alli side effects starlix tablets price is emsam available in canada canadian pharmacy online atomoxetin us pharmacy online diamox robaxin 750 uk cialis jelly canada prescription cleocin gel india no prescription acquisto lexapro sicuro online nootropil discount voucher artane industrial school archives propecia over the counter india no prescription azitromicina chloramphenicol roche precio argentina buy over the counter etodolac online leukeran birth control online canada purchasing retino a cream 0,025 online the chepest cialis can buy rocaltrol online risperdal generic reviews online almetec overnight delivery salbutamol limited india phone in order for fluss 40 buy generic triamterenum online no prescription metformin hcl rxlist discount floxin buy amoxicilina online safely prazosin brand pills for sale order allegra cheap top 10 online levitra sites best site for estradiol valerate elimite stores zedd for men in usa arava over counter altace cheap uk pharmacy order endep cod how to order naprosyn diflucan uk spc northamericanpharmacy single dose cipro for gonorrhea wellbutrin sr in canada naprosyn online bestellen amlodipin cost in canada middle district of florida accutane mdl promethazine next day shipping what is voveran made of order parlodel uk pharmacy which uk site to buy zestril buy permethrinum with a mastercard lisinopril 10 mg tablet lup l tryptophan tablets online better than albenza buy clomifene online in the united states without a prescription betapace overnight shipping usa estro online ordering buy kamagra chewable greece tricor generic equivalent buy estro500 australia fast azulfidine deleviery compazine drug in canada pharmacy uk buy cialis super active without prescription 10mg of accutane for cheap trimox canada buy rosuvastatin without a subscription what is viagra jelly mg used to treat buy proscar 15mg online health canada ginette 35 can you over the counter at boots buy viagra online how to buy medazole isoptin discontinued ordering kamagra oral jelly on line skelaxin buy no prescription motilium overnight pharmacy tadalis sx buy india apo furosemida fda approved to buy without prescription online no prescription uk for cialis sublingual how to import adalat buy viagra with paypal does triamterene hctz cause weight gain betapace from europe trileptal canada head office albuterol legal us brand tadalis buy cephalexin dosage forms generic probalan uk paypal side effects of allegra tetracycline over the counter for cats low dosage of accutane gabapentin high 100mg cheap coumadin buy avapro pills in the us tesco viagra get viagra online prescription amaryl m 1 mg adalat medication on line where to buy estro without a prescription buy cipro pills prednisolone steroids 5 mg dipyridamole pharmacy vitamin shoppe coupon printable where to buy levaquin with mastercard where to buy premarin online uk nitrofurantoin 100mg modified release capsules amantadine drug store online antibiotics sales fertility drugs for women costs buy compazine online india trial erection packs 3 over the counter finpecia drug in fr pharmacy retino a cream 0 05 prescription only buy coversyl with prednisone alcohol buy effexor xr pills in the mexico emsam mg uk serevent cheap australia pharmacy viagra plus prix en pharmacie en france buy cheap orlistat using pay pal requip drug in usa pharmacy aldactone mg canadian rx buy claravis mg online for best place buy crestor cheapest mirapex in the uk legal buy zitromax online canada mevacor from australia birth control pills liver disease best place to buy promethazine in uk vasotec prescriptions ginseng 1000 thyroxine hormone pdf cephalexin australia cefadroxil to purchase without a prescription relafen for sale uk best price for azulfidine viagra australia price levitra professional sublingual dosage sustiva reviews best place to buy meclizine in usa how to buy rosuvastatin in london best site to buy dipyridamole where can i buy vagifem buyers of malegra fxt canada cipro tablet sale danazol tablets 40mg tamoxifen store where can i buy amlodipinbesilat mg where to get maxaman pct amlodipinbesilat daily use reviews where to buy bactrim ds what is depakote made of trazodone liquid valtrex review buy femara tablets uk tamsulosin otc uk order levaquin online no prescription with a amex how long does aldactone stay in system buy diakof mg atarax pricing how many mg of lexapro to get high wigraine drug class topamax online no prescription recommended benadryl dose for dogs fucidin on line in the canada buy levothyroxin tablets canada pill rx health order toprol xl products depakote buy no prescription combivent online from canada caverta meds no prescripion lipitor $4 copay participating pharmacies walgreens non prescription clavamox pharmacy acyclovir 800 mg generic finpecia buy 50mg kamagra tablets can you take serevent daily viagras in india cephalexin for dogs buy tadalafil 10 mg manufacturer order flunil uk pharmacy bactroban canada prescription where do i simvastatina in uk lincocin where can i buy it robaxin canada companies only accutane overnight membership prescription purchase tegretol in usa is there a drug comparative to elavil generika propecia bestellen buy brahmi new zealand online buy innopran xl mg online aciclovir tablets 200 mg side effects can you buy snovitra super power over the counter in germany can order trial erection packs 2 online atacand discount voucher mail order micronase online indian generics online coversyl tetracycline online from uk buying erythromycin using paypal order asacol without rx order estrace online in usa accutane buy online isotretinoin what does pamelor do nexium from australia online allegra purchase buy hydrodiuril online us no prescription what kind of seizures does keppra treat midamor pas cher italie trandate cheap mexico pharmacy what are the side effects of zoloft 50 mg world war 1 trenches buy amlodipin online reviews purchase cozaar in mexico cheap baclofen buy online indian pharmacy brahmi cardizem echeck buy zanaflex online with no prescription canadian ephedraxin tablet atorlip 10 for men in usa zocor cheap uk pharmacy how can i get promethazine w codeine vc digoxin online usa no prescription provera from australia unisom for men sale in uk get ginette 35 legal sarafem online from india claritin causes weight gain cheapest way to live in the uk purchasing sildenafil citrate online elavil where to get fluoxetine hcl 20mg capsules coversyl billig kaufen buy atacand online from australia generic disulphiram uk paypal allopurinol without subscription ephedraxin drugs provera prices usa canadian pharmacy prevacid what is nitrofurantoin medicine used for buy lasix online without a prescription orlistar where can i buy diovan 80 mg price aristocort uk next day delivery can i order motilium online order benadryl from uk without prescription metronidazole uk pharmacy cost of viagra in malaysia should fosamax be taken for osteopenia canadian drug company serophene citalopram tablets uses orlistat lloyds pharmacy minocycline dose uti generic hytrin united states motilium suspension para que sirve buy unisom sleepgels correct cialis sublingual brands india buy topamax online no prescription usa levothroid online coupon code buy benemid online from usa will generic flovent available order neurontin 300 mg requip drug canadian pharmacy what is colospa pills used for viagra without insurance actos funerarios en la india safe xenical no precription rhinocort aqua pregnancy prandin no script lisinopril costco pill rx health order nolvadex products buy esperal mg online for can i buy lasilix in canada what is erection packs 2 for skelaxin without prescription canada revatio sale 100mg discount buy lopressor online usa alli fat tablets reviews van you order decadron canadian rhinocort aqua pregnancy class salvent india sale beta val drug in mexico pharmacy keftab australia order diclofenac gel online no prescription with a mastercard aciclovir suspension 100 mg canadian tetracycline over the counter drugs similar to fluoxetina prazosin online overnight where to buy valaciclovir ointment ciplox tablets buy nitroglycerin tablets prices online toursemide phenamax noprescrition needed uk online pharmacy all types cholestoplex pills where to buy roaccutan online india no script albuterol mg order erexin v on line uk ventolin hfa no prescription luvox to buy in the usa without a prescription drinking on antibiotics effects aleve pct buy best place buy cipro pct can we trust serevent online what is cyklokapron for order lozol online canada where to buy levitra plus mg fluoxetina with paypal payment clozaril patient monitoring system australia fucidin online pharmacy shipped to canada buy levitra super active tablets australia buying mycelex g in manchester bupropionum without prescription clomid and drinking alcohol ortho tri cyclen inactive ingredients where can i get some prinivil novo digoxin where can i buy it dyazide online uk meloxicam enolat generic reviews top 10 online metocarbamol sites sominex online usa no prescription buy cozaar in ireland snovitra super power online pharmacy uk imovane tablets side effects blopress no prescription compare prices cheap jelly viagra pharmacy buy drugs sominex mexican pharmacy no prescription leukeran doxazosin next day shipping buy cialis cheaply order floxin online no prescription with a mastercard what is ampicillin resistance detrol australia companies only buy online ashwagandha generic buy disulfiramum capsules can i get pregnant while taking fluoxetine hydrodiuril order in the us meloxicam 15 mg tab generic pills for neurontin carafate tablets online childrens claritin reviews get clomid with no prescription elavil side effects hair loss raciper shoppers drug mart grifulvin v mail order india micardis brands india best epivir hbv prices phenergan for sale philippines cipro to buy in the usa without a prescription pill rx health order albenda products viagra effects men canada buy trial erection packs 3 without prescription cheap meclizine 100 mg hydrochlorothiazide pills online in the australia suhagra 50 mg tablet over the counter allegra when acai berry recommended daily dosage prednisona kern pharma 30 mg prospecto low cordarone shortage of prevacid meclizine side effects pregnancy order penegra online uk glucotrol birth control online us buy propecia online thru paypals buy ciprofloxacina online india no prescription buy toprol no prescription albuterol sulfate inhaler buy bystolic mg online for flomax medication overnight delivery strattera online prescription aristocort uk pharmacy why has lopressor been discontinued is generic ginseng effective aciclovir not generic uk pharmacies online that sell bisoprololi fumaras allie finkle rules for girls books in order meg cabot cheap viagra jelly free delivery all types avodart pills doxycycline side effects itchy rash trial erection packs 1 sold over counter purchase evecare retino a cream 0 025 dose pack no prescription buy aceon in ireland cialis soft usa pharmacy best place to buy propecia in australia what is oracea made of where to buy trileptal online india triamterenum prices usa wellbutrin sr australia companies only ordering metronidazol on line cialis 5 mg reviews tamsulosin spc emc renova express canada cheap canadian compazine no prescription comprar pamelor original en madrid rhinocort india methotrexate discounted lexapro 10mg not working buy astelin paypal accepted lotensin generic equivalent where to lopid dose pack sale depo medrol clomid only pct cycle billig amlodipin online kaufen luvox no prrescription lamisilate canada no prescription pariet costo order fucidin online canada where to buy avodart online india imuran online usa stromectol cost comparison canadian lowest colospa drug in mexico pharmacy where to buy tegretol drugs online buy levitra plus online from uk motilium generic wikipedia drugs trial erection packs 2 uk brand name purchase kamagra oral jelly on line in australia generic flomax uk paypal order zyvox from india without prescription almetec c ratioph prescription only best pharmacy to order duphalac costco pharmacy ciplox price is metformin otc zentel pret suspensie order zofran lozol no prescription needed clonidine for hot flashes uk allegra hicks sale disulphiram online without rx micardis mg usa no prescription prednisolona best place to buy kelnor can abilify get you high pyridium usa no prescription inderal buy online canada ceftin drug in canada pharmacy what is omeprazole capsules for clopidogrelum pills online in the mexico canada buy zyprexa without prescription levothyroxine and weight loss 2011 depakine chrono pricing cheap ampicillin us where do i ginseng in mexico watch online match ind vs pak where do i doxi 1 in canada ciprofloxacin hcl wiki esperal noprescrition needed canada online pharmacy research grade chloramphenicol speman cheap uk how can i get singulair cheap frumil shoppers drug mart cytotec online purchase what is the highest dosage of cialis cialis billig kaufen ohne rezept lipitor patent expiry 2011 purchasing benadryl online veterinary pharmacies america inc pet medicine from canada over the counter medicine that acts as digoxin where can i buy generic prevacid prozac canada sale mail order generic maxalt buy enalapril no prescription cheap remeron no prescription olistat usa pharmacy comprar lipothin online evista tablets cost orlistatum mg buy buy minocycline in india online grifulvin v birth control online mexico otc pain meds not nsaids fertomid online in us purchase aricept 10 mg keftab over the counter drugs generic levitra vardenafil how to buy estro in london se comprar cialis sin receta medica oratane us companies only buy cardura online without a prescription insulin pen instructions seroflo online with out prescription top 10 online lantus sites cheapest nolvadex no prescription purchase olanzapine in us online forum overnight buy serevent benicar hct generic equivalent best place to buy actos in usa generic voltaren us voltaren canada overnight delivery malaria medication chloroquine side effects legal buy retino a cream 0 025 online canada vpxl dose toprol xl on line for sale no script ondansetrona generic wikipedia drugs flagyl from usa lamictal canada drug store online medicine store in chennai weight loss alli reviews buy serevent online safely aleve for sale philippines buy prednisone hong kong fda best place to buy cleocin in mexico what is meloxicam enolat for erection packs 2 3days delivery discount endep from usa buy elimite in india online terbinafine cream clozaril tablets price cheap albuterol mg is generic wellbutrin sr available in usa mirtazapine withdrawal side effects flagyl online india doxycycline in costa rica best prices on prilosec otc caprysin buy uk crestor online purchase bactrim lawsuit settlements name brand zofran online nootropil mexico pharmacy can you buy zithromax in ireland buying azurette from canada no prescription buy finpecia online pharmacy exelon drugs for sale acquistare apcalis sx in italia order esperal from uk without prescription ebay buyer wants to pay by check exelon prescription drugs apo clopidogrel birth control online uk order retin a 0,025 online uk minocycline fast canada clomid ovulation calculator menstrual cycle what is a z pack for a sinus infection buy mobic online from usa medrol online usa no prescription crescent 365 pillsbury avodart mg no prescription pain medication without prescriptions extendaquin india no prescription buy generic topamax online atarax suppositories buy how to buy synthoid retino a cream drug schedule bystolic side effects anxiety new mexico pharmacy laws retin a 0 025 online in us l tryptophan mail order roaccutan drug in fr pharmacy aspirin mechanism of action in mi list of tesco stores selling cialis sublingual is there a generic drug for valtrex demadex without a prescription from us what is it like to take paxil buy cefixime online no prescription genuine retin a 0,025 best price female cialis by mail order is mail order combivent safe very cheap elimite can you order ditropan buy stieva a pills in the us what is levitra super active pills used for aciclovir generic cheap costs buy antara pills in the canada alfumet fluconazol ectopic pregnancy methotrexate alcohol aetna rx online voveran sr cheap india pharmacy emoquette without a prescription from canada arava pills online in the mexico cephalexin capsules msds order innopran xl online without rx order hoodia from usa without prescription med cab atorlip 20 pharmacy has best price viagra jelly is mail order femcare safe cleocin next day shipping tretinoin online india buy lopid medication generico del viagra en chile over the counter medicine luvox prednisone generic trade name tamoxifen generic 2013 drugs where can i buy atacand tablets where can i get clomifene from zetia canadian online overnight pharmacy can you buy ceftin online which is stronger levitra or viagra tetracycline online canada generic aygestin us lotrisone without a script femara use in men very cheap zedd buy amoxicillin without prescriptions order ortho cyclen rx lansoprazol to buy in england propecia without prescriptions uk where to buy tamoxifen drugs online xenical india companies only cheap 250mg buy amoxil fluoxetine 20 mg tablets to buy zyrtec in uk promethazine online uk compare prices trileptal can you get cholestoplex what is baridium pills used for atomoxetine adhd treatment buy furosemide generic ventolin inhalers no prescription australia northwest pharmacy reviews januvia billig kaufen cheap jelly buy kamagra online generic tetracycline no prescription priligy order online no prescription can you get blood clots while taking coumadin buying kamagra oral jelly from canada no prescription levaquin purchase in canada no prescription effexor xr online order can you only get lukol on prescription get prescriptions online canada how to take eurax mg ampicillin australia pharmacy fungsi obat flagyl benzoyl metronidazole estrofem cheap uk aricept buy online ireland paroxetine birth control online mexico buy actos online no prescription united states where to buy tegretol with visa minomycin buy online ireland valtrex generic online buy fucidin bulk norvasc common blood pressure medications comprar medazole original obagi medical tretinoin cream .05 safe zetia buy flagyl online pharmacy uk celebrex tablets over the counter pain meds for uti tetracycline dose for uti treatment yagara pct buy detrol la cheapest buying femara from canada no prescription procardia on line salvent uk sale purchase lexapro in mexico abilify depot approval date generic nitrofurantoin usa pharmacy lawsuits against accutane canada estrofem to buy fml forte prix en pharmacie en france dosage of synthroid after thyroidectomy buy kamagra chewable visa olistat usa no prescription zyrtec vs claritin ingredients sumycin for dogs what are the side effects of getting off abilify azithromycin tablets 500mg cheap accuran sale uk venlafaxina generic reviews buying metformin cheap genericmedication flovent order in the us where to buy ortho cyclen ointment diabecon 30 day free trial order colchicine cheap orlistar next day pill rx health cabaser products vermox uk boots female viagra from canada without rx etabus generico italiano cheap retino a cream 0 05 free delivery generic from provera buspar brand positioning content management system comparison what is movalis made of online no prescription uk for motilium how to import live fish to australia priligy albendazole over the counter buy online view topic viagra super active from europe combivent by mail order trial erection packs 1 over the counter uk xenical alli fda valaciclovir birth control online india buy diamox online india secure tabs online pharmacy buy acai max cleanse canada triamterenum online in canada i pill lipitor website atorvastatin cholesterol tadalafil citrate dosage non prescription tamoxifen pharmacy no prescription clomifene sale alpha order celebrex online now pamelor cost cabgolin buy australia where can i get some bonnispaz doxycycline hyclate 100 mg capsules cheap nordette free delivery how many mg of aspirin to take for a headache lisinopril cheap india pharmacy zanaflex without rx viagra super active medicine online penegra weight gain can i order acticin zyrtec 10mg tab orlistatum in croatia annual sales of lipitor singulair spain over counter tragedia en tres actos pelicula online buy coreg online uk no prescription i pill depakote website apcialis brand viagra prescription coupon what is the generic for coreg cr viagra cheap online no prescription clozaril legal us deltasone canada suhagra pills online in the australia naltrexone price online buy xalatan 40 viagra store in mumbai cheap roaccutane 40 mg online generic prednisona no prescription how to use cytotec misoprostol moduretic tablets uses torsemide pills online in the mexico vpxl online from canada buy coversyl perth australia seroquel 50 mg street price buy hydrochlorothiazide uk buy trandate online cheap paroxetine in usa can you buy cytoxan mg diclofenac potassium 50mg dosage sertraline reviews uk what is a substitute for januvia where can i buy genuine kamagra betapace with no rx lukol on line for sale no script avapro prescription coupon furosemida mexico buy cipro without a script carbozyne cost in canada desyrel billig kaufen nolvadex research drugs buy abilify online canada drugs trimox online mexico rid canadian pharmacy emails buy key pred usa combivent overseas purchase generic zithromax glucophage xr spc a good web page to buy ovral l with no script what is keppra mg used to treat how to order viagra jelly online prescription toradol can you get atarax over the counter amoxil with no perscription health canada beta val canadian evista tablet buy gyne lotrimin mexican pharmacies where could i buy estrace without prescription motrin 800 ingredients lanoxin coupons purchase ciplox in us buy prednisona online without a prescription buy atacand quick to buy cleocin gel is indian viagra safe yagara generic canada bactroban nasal ointment is used to treat what generic cialis jelly safe phentermine side effects zocor from canada without rx cabaser daily use reviews lov cost styplon erection packs 3 in italia quickest antivert prednisone dosage for asthma in children buy arimidex bodybuilding usa buy tretinoin 0,025 without prescription what is compazine toradol order online how long does levitra take to take effect generic cialis tadalafil india buy nordette online india proventil drug in canada pharmacy buy celadrin online vermox only prescription needed how to order movalis where to buy azitromicina online without rx buy cialis online no prescription us order vistaril online no prescription with a echeck cheap viagra pills get prescription drugs without rx buy effexor xr 150 mg ginette 35 for sale australia where do i l thyroxine in australia toradol comprare novartis voltaren 50 mg what is lisinopril used for and what are the side effects prednisone generic canada where purchase viagra glucotrol xl pill shop discount code buy aciphex online top micardis without a script pamelor order online where to buy exelon online without rx brand name depakine chrono online revatio with no perscription cialis soft for purchase without a prescription vermox to buy in the uk without a prescription levaquin pharmacy coupons lasix pills online in the india bactroban for sale philippines where can i order brand viagra can you buy levitra plus in ireland viagra generic asthma inhalers blue microzide usa no prescription purchase tizanidinum on line in the uk buy almetec tablets uk buy promethazine 10 free or low cost eulexin buy keppra pills in the australia buy viagra london buy generic cialis online no prescription how to use geriforte where do i revatio in canada povestea mea revista online eulexin with paypal payment fertomid india levaquin over the counter drugs cialis free trial offer predalone in usa purchase viagra plus pills is promethazine codeine legal in canada where do i lady era in uk online forum buy astelin azelastine cost of mail imitrex cialis jelly canadian medications without prescription quiero comprar dutas safe place order medrol can you order decadron doctor medication ciplox cost comparison over counter zertalin erexor dose non prescription estrace lowest price rhinocort viagra sales in canada propecia buy online canada otomax no rx haldol online in usa lansoprazol from mexico where to buy estrofem online without rx can you get cytotec levothroid online australia tinidazole buy online us buy kamagra with paypal uk seretide advair how to buy fluss 40 in london best site for maxaman how long does it take to become a pharmacy technician get betoptic toronto himcocid prix en pharmacie en france comprar fosamax original en madrid trazodone medication for sleeping where cozaar drugs blood best place buy suprax pct microzide generic wikipedia drugs pharmacy has best price liposafe what is biaxin without purchase altace cash can you order bupron sr amantadine 20mg tab atarax pas cher italie pill rx health order artane products chlamydia home test boots buy actos 4 30mg is it safe to order keflex generic singulair uk costco pharmacy glucovance price buy wigraine in singapore zoloft dosage for ocd thyroxine uk no prescription florinef buy canada arzomicin usa cvs prices is ventolin available over the counter in australia toprol xl ships from india viagra online paypal uk cheap relafen losec mups 20 mg gastro resistant buy generic meclizine online grifulvin v birth control online australia zocor without rx pyridium non prescription himcocid supplier in uk elocon online in canada vardenafil hydrochloride levitra is generic tadalis sx effective actos online with out prescription buy nootropil online australia no prescription buy eurax pills in the australia what conditions does levaquin treat glucotrol xl without discount view topic buy generic plendil no prescription where to buy frumil in canada safely medication technician training online clonidine shelf life genuine generic acticin prescription combivent canada overnight delivery where to buy tramadol overnight alavert roche precio argentina fake viagra prescription approved compazine mexico pharmacy tretinoin 0 025 cost in canada astelin in italia easiest way to get pain pills rosuvastatin without a prescription from canada comprar zentel portugal medco mail order meds is diclofenac sodium available in us voltaren diovan clozaril where to buy zanaflex online uk zovirax pills online in the mexico risperdal brand pills for sale topamax canada where to buy zocor online mexico otomax medication can i buy lozol in canada buy wellbutrin online cheap exelon birth control online us floxin drug in usa pharmacy lasilix drug in mexico pharmacy revatio online pay paypal brahmi barato taking clomid day 4 cycle generic dutasteride 2.5mg buy brand etabus buy buspar 15mg online is there a generic brand for xalatan where do i arimidex in uk buying kamagra in london minocycline trusted online drug stores in canada buy zitromax in india online buy over the counter orlistar online can order celadrin canada antabuse from canadian pharmacy is synthroid brand or generic brand cialis online from uk allegra medicine children top 10 online biaxin sites effexor xr canada online no prescription diprolene online coupon code prednisolone price in india villas for sale in calan porter cvs pharmacy crestor over the counter medicine that acts as maxalt buy alli diet pills canada cialis professional for sale australia how to by levaquin online emsam with no rx generic tinidazolum cost synthroid 75mcg buy online with out prescription anafranil 40 mg dose delivery abilify without cod metformin hcl er 1000 mg side effects buy singulair mg buy wellbutrin sr from canada buy cialis cheap pyridium discount medications buy methylprednisolone 4mg dosepak online is zetia in generic form tramadol hydrochloride capsules trimix training gabapentine on line in the uk can you order pulmicort without inhaler buy amoxil online cheap purchase moduretic pill rx health almetec products blue oblong pill e658 100 micardis buy online us does green promethazine syrup have codeine in it where to buy cheap generic lamisilate generic celapram usa pharmacy c ratioph sublingual dosage where can i buy cheap orlistat tablets mail order generic flucazole what are the side effects of going off seroquel is erection packs 2 legal in uk geriforte online canada diflucan generic india zyvox birth control online us buy delta cortef online usa can you buy brahmi over the counter in germany bupron phone orders microzide pills online in the australia side effects of zovirax 800 mg diovan generic wikipedia drugs over counter seroflo remedio citrato de sildenafila para que serve reglan drug in germany pharmacy imitrex over counter drug order warafin from australia without prescription list of pharmacy chains in canada inderal western australia buy zanaflex online reviews all types desyrel pills dapoxetine lawsuit settlements 17 beta estradiol funcion where purchase dostinex buy unisom next day what is the drug mobic for order wigraine online canada order without buy amitriptyline where to buy actoplus met online uk can you get forzest does vpxl actually work morning after pill free scotland can you order female viagra fosamax with american express acyclovir online without a prescription atarax drug oversea zantac drug schedule quiero comprar cytotec en chile best site get tinidazole where can i purchase acai berry pure movalis discount what is the medication hydrochlorothiazide for cialis full prescribing information purchase diclofenac gel in canada acai juice coupons diakof for sale philippines grifulvin v for men in usa what does flonase sneezing runny vermox dosage administration ralista reviews and dosage buy retino a cream boots ibuprofen 400 mg dose best place to buy ethionamide in canada levaquin medicine online prescription drug propecia minocycline western australia buy floxin 100 pharmacies in cash order chloramphenicol buying colospa from canada no prescription trial erection packs 2 canadian online safe to buy generic alesse from canada comprar prazosin pela internet safe to buy generic actoplus from usa fluoxetine online without prescription provera legal us getting citalopram off the internet buy abana 1 online pharmacy liv 52 no prescription needed canadian online pharmacy novo digoxin medication buy carafate using paypal can you buy real viagra online buy nizoral over counter buy no prescription allegra d voveran sr to buy in england tindamax reviews for men decadron usage levaquin pills side effects purchase generic roaccutan discount code for metformin how much will glucophage cost hctz 25 triamterene 37.5 walmart 4 dollar list atorvastatin noroxin without a prescription buy raloxifeno online no prescription us acquisto caverta sicuro online all types lotensin pills remeron pills online in the australia brand viagra generic canada clonidine recommended dosage crestor uk nhs generic voveran buy canada tofranil next day delivery generic indinavir usa pharmacy buy toprol xl online from mexico buyoral nolvadex skelaxin with american express
Home Biz of Baseball - Interviews Earl Santee - Ballpark Development

Like Shoot to Thrill - An AC/DC Tribute on Facebook!

An authentic tribute of AC/DC that covers the best of the Bon Scott era and the best of Brian Johnson's material

Who's Online?

We have 778 guests online

Atom RSS

Earl Santee - Ballpark Development PDF Print E-mail
User Rating: / 2
Written by Maury Brown   
Sunday, 09 April 2006 12:00
Earl SanteeIn this interview, Santee of HOK talks the Twins and Marlins continued efforts for new facilities, and how HOK approaches projects that are not yet funded, how the stadium design process is launched, which designs have been the most challenging, the downsizing of seat capacity in current designs, how upper deck design is approached in the context of lower bowl seating, Busch III, the New Nationals design, how Value Engineering is approached, what options by the client allow for a moving away from the nostalgic, or retro design, and how HOK can approach further work without resting on their laurels.
In the 1960s and ‘70s a series of multi-use stadiums were built starting with RFK Stadium, and moving the through the likes of the Astrodome, Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, Busch Stadium II, and the Kingdome that has garnered a label within ballpark history as the Cookie-Cutter, or Cement Donut age of ballpark design.

As it sits now, we are in another design era that simply will be called the HOK Era.

Since the development of Oriole Park at Camden Yards in 1992, HOK has been the gold standard by which many clients looking for new facilities start, and nearly always end.

At the heart of many of these designs by HOK Sport, which is a division of Hellmuth, Obata and Kassabaum, is Earl Santee.

Santee has worked on more than 18 Major League Baseball parks and 40 minor league and spring training baseball projects, including the successful completions of PNC Park, Minute Maid Park and Angel Stadium of Anaheim. His responsibilities include design, project direction, interior architecture, cost estimating, feasibility studies and master planning.

As a Senior Principal at HOK, Santee’s influence on a vast array of ballparks developed, or in the works is astounding. A small sampling of his project experience includes:

  • Washington Nationals New Ballpark, Washington
  • New Busch Stadium, St. Louis, Missouri
  • PNC Park, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
  • Angel Stadium of Anaheim, Anaheim, California
  • Minute Maid Park, Houston, Texas
  • Coors Field, Denver, Colorado
  • Wrigley Field Renovation, Chicago, Illinois
  • Portland MLB Site Analysis, Portland, Oregon
  • Northern Virginia MLB Site and Concept Design
  • Kauffman Stadium Improvements, Kansas City,
  • Busch Stadium Master Plan, St. Louis, Missouri
  • Minnesota Twins Site Study, Minneapolis, Minnesota
  • Shea Stadium Redevelopment Study, New York,
  • Florida Marlins New Ballpark, Miami, Florida
  • New Yankee Stadium, New York, New York
  • Las Vegas MLB Study, Las Vegas, Nevada

He recently received the top honor on Sports Business Journal’s list of Most Influential People in Sports Facility Design, Architecture and Development. He currently serves as principal in
charge of the New Yankees Stadium and the New Washington Nationals Ballpark designs.

Given the scope of Santee’s experience, it would have been impossible in one sitting to touch on every ballpark he has had a part in. Topics include the Twins and Marlins continued efforts, and how HOK approaches projects that are not yet funded, how the stadium design process is launched, which designs have been the most challenging, the downsizing of seat capacity in current designs, how upper deck design is approached in the context of lower bowl seating, Busch III, the New Nationals design, how Value Engineering is approached, what options by the client allow for a moving away from the nostalgic, or retro design, and how HOK can approach further work without resting on their laurels.

This extensive interview would have been far longer had Santee been able to talk in detail about both of the upcoming projects in New York in New Yankee Stadium, and the new Mets facility design.

Enjoy.Maury Brown

Selected Ballpark Design Renderings
Courtesy of HOK and the NY Mets

Click on images for Large view

Select links for hi-res versions

Nationals Renderings

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Hi-Res NE View (4.91 megs)

Click to see larger view

Hi-Res NW View (2.02 megs)

Click to see larger view

Hi-Res SE View (1.94 megs)

Click to see larger view

Hi-Res SW View (1.94 megs)


Marlins Renderings
Courtesy HOK

Click to see larger view

Hi-Res Aerial (4.87 megs)

Click to see larger view

Yankees Renderings
Coming Soon

Twins Renderings
Courtesy HOK

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

Click to see larger view

BizBall: Your bio mentions that you served as Principal on the first two major league ballpark design-build bridging projects: PNC Park and the New Busch Stadium. Can you explain what a design-build bridging project entails?

Santee: Design build bridging is where we are the design architect and we take the drawings to a certain point in the project. At that point, the contractor hires an architect directly to complete the work and the architect works for the contractor.

We stay with the owner and act as his advocate for design of the project. So the bridging aspect is that we "bridge" the design through the owner and not the contractor—the design build job basically.

In traditional design build jobs, the design architect is the architect of record. In design build bridging all of the cost overruns are born by the design builder, which would include design errors adnomissions and so on. In traditional building that’s not necessarily the case.

BizBall: How big of a role does consensus play in stadium designs that involve public/private partnerships?

Santee: Well, quite a bit.

Obviously, it depends on how strong the team is about their design objectives and then how those design objectives may marry with a community’s objectives for themselves, as far as future planning purposes or master planning purposes…if they want to build more than just one project, and what the influence of the project design might be on that (planning). So building consensus on design is important so everybody has a common direction and common goal, and at the end of the day they feel like there is a broad sense of success that is borne not just by one group.

BizBall: In many cases, you and HOK have been working on some designs that are, for lack of a better word, in limbo. The Twins design and site, along with the Marlins are two of these as the clubs continue to work on funding. How do you approach these projects, and, if you could, explain the adaptability part of that process.

Santee: Those projects are a lot like all of our projects. The most difficult part of any project is getting them funded. That’s as simple as it gets—some projects can be done in a year or two, like in Pittsburgh. Some projects take 15 or 16 years, like San Francisco.

So adapting is not a term I would use; I would probably say that we learn to be patient and let the process take on its own life and let it go its own course.

When the time comes you deal with all the changing environment conditions. Our job at that point— like with both the Twins and Marlins—is to create a sense of excitement and interest in the project that helps support the interest in that project from a funding standpoint and a public acceptance standpoint.

Once funding happens, in most cases, you get into a much more serious design process because you’ve got a schedule, you’ve got money that supports construction and building, and you’ve got risk…risk in the project both from a budget and time standpoint. A lot of it is just being patient and letting the process take its course. It’s different in every State but there is always a process and 9 times out of 10 it’s lengthy and not something that happens in a year or two.

BizBall: Given the number of ballpark projects you are working on, is there a method by which you can take a previous design and use that as a jumping off point, or do you approach each design from scratch?

Santee: They are from scratch. What we do historically is with what we callBaseball 101, because a lot of times when we start a project we have people that don’t understand the design elements and why things are done the way they are, and how those things relate to the building—from a design standpoint, from a functional standpoint, and so on. So we’ll do that at the beginning and then we do a thing which is really just interviewing all the stakeholders and try to get as much input about what they want in the building.

It’s a very traditional kind of architectural process where you’re finding out the needs of the users and you’re finding out facts about the site and about the city. From that you develop a process that creates the building. That kind of gives you the functional side of it (the process).

The form side of it is narrowly driven by, in many cases, one or two people on the owner’s side who have a strong opinion about the form. On the public sector side many, many people have opinions about the form. So you try to take all that into consideration with what the design of the project is moving toward.

In a lot of ways it’s like baking a cake in that you know how many ingredients are there but where and when you put them, and how big the cake is, and how you decorate, is really distinct to each process.

BizBall: Of the 18 MLB ballpark projects that you’ve worked on, which one was the most challenging?

Santee: I think the jobs we have now are the most challenging. The shift from a design perspective is, we’ve done some really great projects and people are happy with them, and now everybody wants to do something different or better.

Understanding that "different" or "better" sometimes makes things more complicated; may take longer or cost more, so this is the challenge within any design process.

The expectations are quite a bit higher now than they had been. They always were high, but now they are higher than they were. I think a lot of times people use the past projects as “okay I know you did this but can you do this?” and they’re changing the paradigm of what these projects are and can be.

They’re challenging…the New York jobs, the DC job, what we had to go through in St. Louis, these are very challenging projects. They challenge us from a design standpoint and they challenge us from a process of how we deal with all the complexities—how many people want to have input into the project. Who we try to satisfy; that’s another key point. Trying to determine who we need to satisfy in the process is very challenging.

BizBall: There seems to be more of a shift now towards revenue generating, such as total seat capacity coming down, there seems to be more emphasis being placed on other revenue streams, mostly in the form of suites. Is that a reasonable comment?

Santee: No. Since the early 1990s revenue was always a mainstay for the purpose of building a new building, along with the functional obsolescence of the buildings there were in. Nowadays suites have really come down.

What I will agree on though, is that looking at revenue in each market is distinct, and that drives the building design to be distinct.

It isn’t all about seats, it’s not all about suites.

In fact, I’d say if anything the baseball suite market has shrunk significantly over the last five years. I mean significantly. It is about providing distinct experiences for the premium seats just like you do with the everyday fan, and that makes the buildings different than what they were before. When we do suites now, there are not many of them and we do them in such a way that they have a position that causes the design to stay uniquely different. Like in Jacobs [Field], where you have three levels of suites along the third base line, but I don’t think you see the suite market driving the design of the projects anymore. In fact, it’s one of those ingredients but we’re definitely in a shrinking suite market and it has been for five years.

I think we’re at the smallest it’s been in a long time. The interesting part about that is that it gives us some more flexibility, because the numbers of suites in these buildings are not an enclosed building form like some football stadiums might be, so that we can put suites in different positions. We know how many suites we can put on one level and it allows us to make a much more intimate seating goal, and more interesting seating goal because we can split the decks up into four or five different organizations that make it interesting for that city or that team.

Revenues have always been there, and think that each team’s leadership really wants to add something to where they know their market really well and they want to work with us to design original and thoughtful forms for their markets. That’s good because it gives the community a much stronger connection to the building and hopefully that strong community connection means more revenue.

BizBall: On the proximity of (especially upper deck) seating to the field ... What's the acceptable distance compared to what it used to be, and where do you see those standards of acceptability going?

Santee: Well, we are designing much smaller upper decks like what you’ll see in St. Louis. There, you have only 9,500 seats in the upper deck, so I think what you’ll see in the future.

From a personal viewpoint, that is my preference: Build as many lower deck seats as I can.

Part of that is usually based on grade or access by the street. The experience of being in the lower deck is much different than being in the upper deck. I’m an advocate of large lower decks, starting with PNC Park and now St. Louis, which both have fairly significant lower deck capacity. So I’m an advocate of large lower decks and small upper decks, for a variety of reasons.

BizBall: Let’s go through a few of the ballparks that you have worked on…

Busch III has been interesting in that it has been developed in phases, and the footprint places it close to an Interstate freeway. How did you approach these aspects?

Santee: The phasing around Busch Stadium—I found out today (3/15/06) that they are finally laying sod. One of the ways to make phase one more function was to move the scoreboard so that it would not be impacted by the demolition of the old Busch Stadium.

I think it was more of a construction feat than a design feat. We put so much emphasis on stuff in the lower deck and things between the baselines, such as left field, which is where the old Busch sat wasn’t as critical for the construction process.

As far as the highway (I-64), we just had to be sensitive about it. We couldn’t push it any farther north because that’s where Busch Stadium was. It’s not unusual to have those kinds of constraints. They were difficult. The highway was something we had to think about from a noise standpoint. The architecture of that side of the building addressed the city and streets and so on, and I think we made reasonably good decisions about it.

We’ve got strong entry and seating points along first and third base and right field, and all of left field and center field are wide open to the city. Our design objective was to connect the building to the city itself and that was strongly related to how we positioned the building on that side, and coincidentally it was adjacent to the highway. But, at the same time it gave it the strongest connection to the city.

BizBall: In the case of some of the current designs you are working on, there is the use of a frieze. Can you go over how HOK decides whether or not to use one?

Santee: Some of our clients want to connect to the history and heritage of the franchise, and that may make for a fairly literal connection that manifests itself in some architecture.

Some of those issues are just logical design solutions to complete the design of the building. That’s one of the things that the Nationals project does, is that it allows a little more freedom for people to think in a broader sense about architecture as it relates to sports.

Historically that’s been (arena design) fairly modernistic in its approach. Football projects, while they started out to be more modernistic, have been both traditional styles and modern styles. Some are transitional, like the Chicago Bears stadium. That makes it interesting.

Baseball fields are baseball fields. It has the same physical dimensions. If you’re doing the job right you’re trying to get the fans to have the most intimate personal experience as you can. The shape of the stadium and its relationship to the field is something you can’t separate. Would we want to? I don’t know if anyone would want to.

I always remember that people said that Oriole Park and Jacobs Field look alike, and I said the only parts where they look alike is the grass field and that they share the same baseball configuration.

The architecture is that one is modern and one is a traditional building form.That’s always been a little bit of a challenge.

The same is true with football; because you’re designing to such a specific sport, and the sport has such a specific size that you try to make the best possible experience for the people who are going to use the building. You would think the seats would conform to the playing field. The only architecture is whatever else you put around the seats, whether it’s more development or inclusive development or exclusive development.

I think in 10 years you really will see a change in how buildings have provoke thought that is connecting the building to more than just the building form. I think you’re going to see more of the St. Louis Cardinals and PETCO analogy where people are trying to do more than just one building at a time, and try to create a district or neighborhood for the community. I think you’re going to see more of that in the future than you do now.

That’s part of the process with DC, is that they are trying to build community and the ballpark is one piece of it. So I think you’ll see more of that. Frankly it’s more fun for us. The more challenging the jobs are the more fun they are. I think that we’ve done quite a few, and having projects that challenge us is a good thing. It’s what motivates us to come to work everyday.

BizBall: On the Nationals design… The use of double decker suites has raised the overall height of the design. I have heard that the new facility will be 21 feet taller than RFK. Can you verify that, and how do you design a facility with this attribute to allow those in the upper deck the best visibility?

Santee: I’ve always stated this on DC, and it too has a large lower deck. Comparatively speaking it probably has half as many upper deck seats as RFK. So what that means is that this is where the whole evaluation analysis comes into play, which doesn’t actually work well, is that we could have added a lot more upper deck seats and gotten some seats a little bit closer. But, I think it’s better that you have a lot more lower deck seats and you have a lot more people closer. That’s really the shift and that is clearly a design shift.

I think they’ve got 23,000 or 24,000 seats in the lower deck, and let me tell you, that’s a great lower deck. If I didn’t do 23,000 or 24,000 seats down there and I put 3,000 or 4,000 more seats in the upper deck—and again this is where I think things are from a design point— I think lower deck seating is a much more valuable play for the fan.

I guess there are people who would rather sit in the upper deck seats than the lower deck seats, and I don’t know why, but I think we’ve had a preference in the last four or five years to create a stronger emphasis on the lower deck seating just because of its accessibility to the fan.

BizBall: There has been talk of trying to get the bouncing stands into the new stands that have become a signature at RFK. Is HOK working on this design aspect for the ballpark?

Santee: It’s been talked about. It’s still part of the design goal, and whether or not it gets executed is another question, but it’s still part of the design goal that was stated early on. That made RFK special to people and whether or not that will make its way to the new building, only time will tell.

BizBall: There has been a considerable amount of attention paid to the funding component of the new Nationals ballpark. The term Value Engineering has been repeated often. Is there a point when the overall aesthetic of the design could be impacted through value engineering, and how have you been so effective in addressing the value engineering component?

Santee: Historically, once we know how much money is being spent purely on construction and that’s been established, we really depend on the construction manager to identify what’s appropriate for that market. Whether that’s structural frame or concrete or steel or mechanical or electrical systems, we really try to work in with the construction manager to make better decisions.

That process went through a lot of VE (Value Engineering), but frankly, a lot of projects go through it because the construction market is as fluid from a pricing standpoint as anything I’ve seen in my career.

Because there is a lot of construction going on, you try to bid the work in a certain marketplace from a competition standpoint, so you get a lot of quality bidders. We just had a hurricane down south that had an impact in construction costs. We’re at kind of a dynamic time as far as how you look at cost. Fortunately for us, a lot of those issues are being dealt with early on. During the VE process you’re basically taking to subcontractors and saying “here’s what we’ve got so what do you think the number is going to be” so you’re actually getting early pricing from them that allows you to make a somewhat informed decision. It’s fairly fluid, so what happens is that after the early information you get some additional information and you have to make some modifications. Every job these days has a fairly extensive VE process.

BizBall: The Nationals design breaks with nostalgic design that has been a large part of ballpark designs by HOK in the recent past. Was there much discussion as to whether to go this route, or was there an effort to have the urban design fit in with some of the other architecture in the Near SE area that is being developed?

Santee: I think the design that was shown yesterday (3/14/06) was really a fairly common design objective that was shown by the city and the sports commission, as well as, the planning commission. It was a fairly common position for what the design should be, and our job was to organize it in a way that gives it a rationale for its purpose and what it looks like.

From what I’ve seen so far the press clippings have been fairly complimentary and people have commented that it took a break, but I’m not certain that if you look at that area there aren’t some changes within four or five or six blocks where there are buildings that have historical value. When you look at DC it has its own history. It’s not like we need to re-create it within a ballpark.

BizBall: Was the placement of the parking structures toward centerfield a design concern in terms of the viewing aesthetics looking out of the ballpark?

Santee: Yes. As architects we thought over everything with those kinds of details. It’s a concern about how big the buildings are and what’s the view to the Capitol—can people see into the ballpark from that side of the city—so those are always concerns.

How they are going to be developed is another question, and those are future questions that I don’t know if they have answers to right now.

BizBall: How important is site selection to the overall astetics of the stadium design? Did that have any impacts to the Nationals design given the unique process that MLB and the District were under?

Santee: The one thing that's different about the DC job is that in most cases is that historically we do the site selection.

Site selection is one of the most crucial aspects of whether or not you create a great building. I think the site we have in Pittsburgh is incredible and immaculate. In DC, that process was an independent process. We were given a program and given a budget and given a site, and asked to design a building and that's where we are today.

BizBall: What type of designs do you feel we’ll see in the next 10 years? Is there the capacity for a radical departure from what we are now seeing?

Santee: I think it depends on the client and the design climate.

Some clients like the Marlins, we had an even more modern looking building than DC and with a roof, and that was because the owner of the team wanted a piece of sculpture.

It just depends on the client and how they see the branding of their franchise and the community and how that’s represented. So I think you’ll see more projects like this one. We’ve embraced the Nationals job and that’s important to us because it does allow us to spread our wings a little bit. We can design modern buildings and we do it all the time. It just happens to be that we have quite a few buildings that have red brick or limestone or something that looks like it has a more traditional feel to it. We can design modern buildings, so I think the Nationals project is an important project for us. It just changes how people perceive how the success of a different design might have on their franchise within their community.

BizBall: Finally, given the number of ballpark designs that HOK has, done as well as those in process, is there ever a worry that HOK might rest on its laurels?

Santee: That’s one of my personality flaws I guess! I want them to be unique and distinctive. Absolutely. It’s part of how you start the process. You have to look at the city first and then you look at the client and then you look at the site possibilities, and all those things kind of drive it. The fresh side of it is that we challenge ourselves to do bigger and better things. Because we’re not a factory; we’re trying to keep this as creative as we can.

Fortunately for us we’re an international company so we go overseas and look at international buildings and study the architecture as an idea to create more interesting things for our clients. I think it’s just the way we’re organized. People call us a corporation but we’re just a group of individuals that love doing what we do and we don’t want to repeat something that we did before. We want every project to be new and fresh because that’s what motivates us to continue.

Let me close on of the things we actually do is listen to peoples' feedback about our facilities. We read the press and we understand that we have a lot of design goals, and we're trying to do all we can do to make every building special to those communities.

In some cases we get opportunities like the Marlins job, which is a very interesting piece of sculpture, and a lot of that depends on how the client is. We have a great enthusiasm to try new and different things.

We have design studio that is full of young architects that we hire from all over the country to come work here and incubate ideas. I think that some of that manifests itself in our buildings as time goes on.

The following interview was originally published on the SABR Business of Baseball website, and can be read here: SABR Business of Baseball Interviews Page

Interview conducted by Maury Brown on 3/15/06
Transcribed by Galen Antle

Edited by Maury Brown
Graphics and layout by Maury Brown



Should MLB Force Jeffery Loria to Sell the Marlins?