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Written by Maury Brown   
Friday, 02 January 2009 11:29

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UPDATE #1: MLB Network reports that the HD feed of the channel is available to all carriers offering MLB Network. However, not all carriers are offering HD to customers, at this time.

UPDATE #2: MLB Network reports that the channel is carried on "expanded basic or digital basic or its equivalent."

MLB Network hit the ground running yesterday, with Commissioner Bud Selig addressing fans two-minutes before 6pm ET (watch Selig's address), and then airing MLB Hot Stove, a show dedicated to the action in baseball’s off-season. But some of the approximately 50 million subscribers expecting to see the new channel were met with blank screens, a product of service level requirements, possible hardware issues, and in at least one instance, a local cable company not having digital service up and running by launch time.

The largest factor, for those that may be expecting to have access to MLB Network, revolves around what is deemed to be the “basic” package.  A key point for distribution of MLB Network stemmed from negotiations in April of 2007 for MLB’s out of market package, Extra Innings. While Extra Innings was initially going to be granted to DirecTV as a monopoly, eventually the cable consortium of iNDemand was able to broker a deal to continue to gain access to Extra Innings, but it was stipulated by MLB that MLB Network would also have to be carried, and on the basic tier, the most widely available. According to MLB Network, the distribution deal brokered with all carriers is that all must broadcast on the digital basic, or the carrier’s equivalent, a key difference from early reports. Those that have analog service, no matter the carrier, will need to upgrade.

The exception for the lowest level of digital service required for MLBN, at this stage, appears to be DirecTV. MLB Network is on the Choice package and above. Choice is the level just above what DirecTV deems as "Family", or the lowest level. ESPN, and other sports offerings, are not on the Family level of service.

A statement released from MLB Network said, “MLB Network successfully launched on January 1 in approximately 50 million homes.  MLB Network is carried by most major cable and telco providers as well as DirecTV on digital basic or expanded basic. As has been widely reported, MLB Network is not carried a specialized sports tier, but does require customers to subscribe to digital basic cable or the equivalent. Fans can consult the channel locator on MLBNetwork.com to see where it is available in their zip code, and should call their cable, satellite or telco provider if they have further questions.”

Some carriers may also not be fully upgraded to digital service. In Los Angeles, Bob Timmermann of Baseball Toaster: The Griddle (living in the South Pasadena area) reported that Time Warner customer service said 90 percent of the area was getting MLB Network, that most not getting service now would get the channel sometime next week, and some would need to wait until February 10th or 11th. MLB Network could not yet confirm whether this was due to parts of Time Warner’s service area being upgraded fully to digital service, while some areas may not.

There were also issues reported with Time Warner Cable in the Albany-Schenectady region of New York. New York Capital region subscribers there did not get MLB Network until 11pm ET, according to Ken Schott of the Schenectady Gazette. MLBN confirm that this was a technical issue at the time MLB Network went on the air.

Some Comcast subscribers the Portland and Denver area were said to be unable to catch MLB Network. MLBN reports that they have been in contact with Comcast in these markets and the systems were up and running at launch as part of their distribution agreements.

Reports have also filtered into the Business of Sports Network that some using TiVo players with cable cards are unable to access the channels listed. In the cases reported, subscribers had premium packages. Others, however, have reported that the systems are working properly. MLB Network is looking into the issue at this time. A technical issue has been reported in the past with premium channels and TiVos with cable cards, most notably those looking to watch NHL’s Center Ice.

The other subscriber dissatisfaction stems from lack of HD channels for some carriers.

While some issues are said to be getting ironed out, other issues may take far longer. HD distribution appears to still be in its infancy for MLB Network, and as mentioned in our interview with Tony Petitti, President and CEO of MLB Network, distribution in Canada and other international markets are still being negotiated.

As MLB Network enters its second day, we’d like to hear if you are having issues gaining access. Please post in the comments.


Maury BrownMaury Brown is the Founder and President of the Business of Sports Network, which includes The Biz of Baseball, The Biz of Football, The Biz of Basketball and The Biz of Hockey. He is contributor to Baseball Prospectus, and is available as a freelance writer. Brown's full bio is here. He looks forward to your comments via email and can be contacted through the Business of Sports Network.

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Galley
DirecTV
written by Galley, January 02, 2009
DirecTV's Family Pack is only $29.99, but it is virtually worthless. To get the good stuff you have to step up to the Choice package which is $52.99. smilies/sad.gif
Maury Brown
Resetting your Cable Box
written by Maury Brown, January 02, 2009
One other thing to add to the article...

Apparently, when new channels are launched, many times the cable box will need to be reset in order for the channel to appear.

For those that are certain they have digital basic, or the service level providing MLB Network, and have checked to see that their provider is broadcasting MLBN, try powering down your cable box, and then power it back up again. Resetting the box may get the channel to appear.
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What About Phoenix
written by Jeremy Michaels, January 02, 2009
I wanna know if you guys know if you have any word on why people in Phoenix don't have the network yet either. We are a part of Cox communications and they are a partner in the network by way of the aggrement for extra innings. Could you please help us here in any way with info on when the channel will be on our cable system. Thanks.
Joe Siegler
MLBN in Dallas with Time Warner Cable
written by Joe Siegler, January 02, 2009
I've had problems here. I have two TiVo boxes. One is an older Series 2 that uses a Motorola box provided by TWC. The other is a TiVoHD with an M-Type Cable Card in it. The Motorola box is picking up the channel, but the TiVoHD is not. I spent an hour on the phone with TiVo customer service today trying to resolve the problem. After a bunch of simple and some more advanced things we tried, TiVo concluded that the problem lies with TWC, and filed an official report with TWC over the issue.

I have noticed that Tribune Media and TiVo.com both have no listing for 198 here in Dallas, that could have something to do with it.

Your article would lend credence to the fact that I can see it on my Motorola box (with a TiVo Series 2), and my TiVoHD (a Series 3) cannot. The fact that I can get it on my Series 2 TiVo tells me that my level of service with TWC allows me to see the channel, so that's not it.

Either way, I'm miffed that TWC here is not carrying the HD feed. I have seen that TWC in other areas of the country are carrying the HD version, so that much is annoying.

Fortunately I can see the channel, if not in an optimal setting, so I'm not banging off the wall mad about it. But I did lay out a lot of dough for the HDTV plus the TivoHD and all that, and the fact that I can't get the channel at all on my HDTV system is fairly irritating.

Hopefully this gets resolved in a day or two. I've escalated the issue with TiVo as well as at Tribune. But it appears the problem is more widespread than just Dallas area in TiVo.
Joe Touchstone
Comcast Portland did not start broadcast until after 10am Jan. 2
written by Joe Touchstone, January 02, 2009
I worked with Comcast in Portland three times yesterday and they kept referring me to different channels or MLB Extra Innings. I tried resetting my box about 10pm last night to no avail. I just think someone dropped the ball at pushing the new channels out to boxes. It is finally up, but I missed the Don Larsen game broadcast. I look forward to getting the content in HD!
Bob Timmermann
TW shouldn't require a reset
written by Bob Timmermann, January 02, 2009
My TW customer service rep said that the MLB Network should show up without a reset. And since TW has pushed new software on to my DVR, I would think this would be the case.

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Comcast....
written by Pv, January 02, 2009
The Comcast rep I spoke with 2 days ago told me I would have to go the Digital Cla*sic Package that is $75 a month in order to get the MLBN. Their basic digital cable package is $54 a month, and the digital economy that I have is $30 a month. I would have loved to watch some MLBN, but I'm not going to pay an extra $45 a month for it. I would have been willing to go up to digital basic, but I won't go up to digital cla*sic. I don't watch enough TV to warrant that kind of money.
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written by Randy Workman, January 02, 2009
I am also have issues with Comcast regarding MlB network. I called today Jan. 2, 2009 and asked if I had the proper package to get MLB network. They replied that I did, but could not tell why I am not getting MLB network. the said they would foward my issue to marketing and they would be getting in touch with me. I live in Seaford, Delaware.
Maury Brown
Note to those posting technical issues
written by Maury Brown, January 02, 2009
For those that are reporting issues on one level or another, if possible please note your location and your cable provider. MLB Network is interested in gaining as much information as possible to allow them to communicate with carriers and allow consumers access to MLBN.
Joe Siegler
MLBN in Dallas with Time Warner Cable
written by Joe Siegler, January 02, 2009
Maury, I'm in Garland TX in zip code 75043 with Time Warner Cable. I detailed my problem above. I chatted on the phone with TiVo customer support today for about an hour, and about half an hour with TWC customer support tonight. Both blame either other. What a shock that is.
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written by Susan Ackley, January 02, 2009
We were waiting and watching, but the a*signed channel listed on the MLB Network website remained blank. We called Tech Support, but they knew nothing. Today we have been on hold forever with the business office to see if they have any additional information. So sad to have missed the first two days! We have QWEST Custom Choice VDSL service.
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written by Randy Workman, January 02, 2009
Maury: My issue is Comcast in zipcode 19973. I currently have preferred digital cabel and am not receiving MLBN The Comcast rep I talked with thought I wanted to subcribe to MLB extra innings Th rep was totally unaware MLBN.
Diane Firstman
For Time Warner Cable in NYC, you must be above "Digital Starter Pak" tier
written by Diane Firstman, January 03, 2009
Just an FYI, in conversations with numerous service reps at Time Warner,I've been told that the MLB Network is NOT available to those with the "Digital Starter Pak" tier of channels (their most basic tier).

I have the Pak, and indeed was greeted with the "Contact cable operator to subscribe to this channel" when I switched to channel 174 last night.

That circumstance seems consistent with other sports channels on nearby channels (170-173) such as ESPNU, ESPN Cla*sic, ESPN News .... they are only available beginning with the DTValue tier.

This was also mentioned on their website on December 5th, but was no longer noted on their update of December 19th.
Bob Timmermann
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written by Bob Timmermann, January 03, 2009
I'm wondering if Time Warner's dispute with Viacom made them forget about the MLB Network. There can only be a certain amount of staff around the holidays to handle all this stuff
Joe Siegler
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written by Joe Siegler, January 03, 2009
My problem is not just with TWC, it's with TiVo. My bedroom TV does get MLBN, but my living room one does not.

The bedroom uses a Motorola box from TWC, and that works, but the TiVoHD with a CableCARD does not. Maury's article implies that this is a known problem. I spent a total of an hour and a half with various customer service agents from both TWC & TiVo, and they both blame each other. It's particularly frustrating because I can get it in the bedroom and not the living room.
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Still missing in west Orange County, CA
written by Rob McMillin, January 03, 2009
Seal Beach (probably including Rossmoor and Los Alamitos) are supposed to get it by Jan. 6.
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Comcast in Washington, IL 61571 requires "Digital Cla*sic", not "Digital Starter"
written by Bob Brown, January 03, 2009
Screen on Comcast Channel #516 shows that is not available for me.

Per Comcast rep, and previous bill, MLB Network on Comcast
Channel 516 is only available in "Digital Cla*sic" tier, NOT on the lower cost "Digital Starter". This contrary to your info above on the distribution deal reqirement of digital basic. Here, the "Digital Cla*sic" is $15 more than the "Digital Starter" package.

In Washington, Illinois zip 61571, part of the Peoria/Central Illinois Comcast system, Chicago region. MLB Network's Channel Locator thinks that this zip's provider is still Insight Communications. It is NOT, that change happened in Jan 2008, 1 year ago.

Sorry to have missed the first 2 days of MLB Network.
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Why doesn't TWC release info on it?
written by NH Time Warner, January 03, 2009
Why haven't TWC released info on this yet? It is Friday night and still no MLBN!!!
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MLB NETWORK IN HD ON VERIZON FIOS
written by Greg L, January 03, 2009
STILL NOT SHOWING 586 ON VERIZON FIOS IN NEW YORK. IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THE HD CHANNEL? ANY IDEA WHEN IT'S COMING UP?
Bob Timmermann
Deleted from the guide
written by Bob Timmermann, January 03, 2009
My TWC carrier in South Pasadena/San Marino, CA has removed the MLB Network from its guide so as not to get people's hopes up.
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Parts of Cox in Phoenix do have MLB
written by Mark S., January 03, 2009
I'm in North Phoenix (zip 85086) and I have MLB on channel 175. Relatives in North Scottsdale (85260) have it as well. We do not have it in HD though.
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Direct TV
written by J.A, January 03, 2009
I am an Extra Innings subscriber, and have been for 10 years with DirecTV. I have the basic service, and according to my screen, the MLB network, on channel 213, is not available to me.
If I'm paying for the entire DirecTV Extra Innings package, shouldn't I get the MLB Network too? This is nuts!
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Comcast Area Code 39305
written by martisnow, January 03, 2009
I spoke to Comcast twice so far and all I am told is that we can't get MLB Network here. They keep telling me that it may come in later.We have digital prefered service with HD and DVR. Is this even the right package?
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MLB Network Now Coming In
written by Adam P., January 03, 2009
I am one of the people who did not get MLB Network at all New Year's night and into the next morning. I have TiVo HD (which uses CableCards) with Comcast cable service in Alexandria, VA (zip: 22304). I subscribe to the highest level of digital cable, as well as the Sports Pack, so I knew my issue could not have been anything subscription related. I was getting just a black screen on the channel until at least 8:30am Friday morning when I left for work. However, when I came home around 11pm, I noticed that I no longer had a problem. I am now able to watch the channel (though with no program guide information).
Bob Timmermann
Another TWC report
written by Bob Timmermann, January 03, 2009
A friend in Tujunga, CA (91402) reports that the MLB Network shows up with a notice "You must be subscribed to the Sports Tier" or words to that effect.
Bill Bulmer
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written by Bill Bulmer, January 03, 2009
No problem in the southern part of Albany County, NY getting full access to the launch starting at 6 p.m. with Hot Stove.
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Comcast in Delaware
written by Paul Smith, January 03, 2009
Randy, I've got Comcast up in Wilmington, Delaware. I didn't have it, but called on the 2nd, was told I'd have to get Digital Cla*sic. I hemmed and hawed about whether it was worth it. ($16.95/month, I was legitimately on the fence.) After he couldn't give me a list of the other channels I'd be getting, the customer service rep eventually just gave it to me and it took effect immediately. I didn't agree with extra charges so they better not have charged me anything.
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written by Randy Workman, January 03, 2009
Paul; I have digital prefered which includes hd/dvr service. When I talked to the comcast rep I was told that it was not available in my area however I explained to the rep that it was on channel 280 with the message to cal to subscribe to this service. The rep was at a loss as to why I had that message.
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Comcast in Fort Myers, FL
written by Chris O'Conor, January 03, 2009
SW Florida Comcast doesn't have the HD channel, but we are getting the analog channel on the lower digital cable tier.

I do have a question about MLBN programming beyond that - what happened to the rebroadcast of ALCS Game 7 on Saturday afternoon? In it's place was shown another rerun of the Larson game instead. I try not to fall in for conspiracy theories, but it's hard not to feel stepped on when the (one) high point for our little Tampa Bay squad is preceded by: a Boston 2007 retrospective and the Philadelphia 2008 NLCS clincher, is replaced by a 5th rerun of a 1956 new York Yankee game, and is followed without missing a beat by the Game 1 win by Philadelphia in the World Series.

In Florida, we're almost expecting that the Game 2 victory by the Rays (and only one of the Series for us) will disappear from Prime Time and be replaced by the Game 5 coronation of the Phillies, and that the rebroadcast of the ALCS Game 7 at 2:30am will mysteriously get pre-empted by Larson again. Or maybe they'll show it at that time after all, since most people will be in bed and it'll be safe to throw us a bone in the middle of the night.

One thing said during the "sneak peak" video broadcast over and over again at the end of December was the statement: "Trust us: this won't be the Red Sox/Yankees Network. We're going to cover all your teams." Prove it. Give us a good reason why ALCS Game 7 suddenly turned into the Yankees/Don Larson Show. MLBN analyst Joe Magrane was our color announcer for 10 years, so if he comes out and tells us there's a decent reason for this fiasco, I'll accept it. Otherwise, I'm building my pointy tin-foil hat.

(I should add... I'm originally from NY, I loved watching it on Jan 1, and I love the history of the game in all the clubs. Just don't pull what seems to be such a cra*s, money-grubbing move on the little clubs so quickly. If you're going to broadcast something for us, let it air, please.)
Miller Bradley
comcast in chicago
written by itsnotrequired, January 03, 2009
comcast subscriber, 60620 zip code, digital preferred service level. i was out of town for the last couple weeks and just got back. coming in on channel 410 but only in sd. looks like the hd channel is not available yet.
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mlb network unavailable
written by aaron singer, January 03, 2009
I am a neighbor of Adam. P--I am in Alexandria, VA. and in 22305. I saw MLB Network [SD Version, I think] show up in my guide, but it said 'Not Authorized'.

First I tried re-setting the cable box, but same story. So I called Comcast--first person I talked didn't know of the channel, didn't know when it would launch, said it didn't show up on my channel listings, and told me she didn't know who would know. She also told me call my local office.

So, I called back. First, the person told me they don't even have phone numbers at their local offices. Second, she said, after speaking to her supervisor, that they were having problems with some people not getting who should be.

I have the Basic Digital package, so I would very much encourage Comcast customers to call and speak with someone--and if that person says they need to upgrade to 'Digital Cla*sic', or what have you, then flatly tell that person they are wrong. I could tell the first lady I spoke with didn't have a clue what she was talking, so I called back. I know someone who had to call 4 times before they got someone who actually knew what was going on.
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digital packages
written by aaron singer, January 03, 2009
Also, if you go to MLB's Network website, they reiterate the fact that if you get ESPN and the like, you have the basic enough package to get MLB Network. So if your cable company tries to get you to upgrade, tell them that they are wrong.
Miller Bradley
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written by itsnotrequired, January 03, 2009
i get the sinking feeling that cable companies are going to draw a line in the sand regarding what they feel is a "digital basic" level of service and that the whole issue will end up in the courts...
Diane Firstman
Transcript of chat with Time Warner Cable of NYC
written by Diane Firstman, January 03, 2009
Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:37:31 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> Thank you for choosing TWC Live Chat. I will be your analyst today, how may I be of a*sistance?

Diane(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:37:55 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> Hi there. Why isn't the new MLB Network (channel 174) being carried on the Digital Starter Pak level, as the MLB Network site states it should be?

Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:38:04 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> I'll be more than happy to a*sist you with that.

Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:38:29 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> MLB Network on channel 174 will be part of the DTV Tier in BQ, Northern and Southern Manhattan.


Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:38:47 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> It will be $63.50 per month if you subscribe to just cable services only.

Diane(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:39:36 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> That is not stated anywhere on the TWC website. Channel 174 isn't even listed on the website. The channel changes page doesn't even reflect that.

Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:39:50 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> Channels are divided by 3 tiers on the line-up. We have the Basic tier for access to 30 channels only. Next one would be the Starter package for 80 channels and DTV package for 350 channels.

Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:40:11 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> The TWC website is not updated yet. We do apologize for that delay.

Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:41:13 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> The new channel was just launched last 01/01st.

Diane(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:42:14 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> Yes .... I know ... MLB Network's website states that it should be available on "Digital Basic" level for all but a couple of providers (and Time Warner isn't listed one of the exceptions)

Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:42:45 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> TWC will only have the MLB channel as part of the DTV Tier only.

Diane(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:43:05 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> OK .... thank you.

Kathrine(Sat Jan 03 2009 18:43:02 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))> That is the agreement TWC has with the MLB network.

Miller Bradley
more info
written by itsnotrequired, January 04, 2009
from 'fenway' at the whitesoxinteractive message board:

Talked to a friend at Comcast and he says it has been a nightmare.

First problem is amazingly stupid. Comcast memos refer to the channel as The Baseball Channel not MLB. OK....

Now next problem is whatever call center you get thrown to. Ask the rep from the get go where they are. If they are in London, Ontario or St Johns, Newfoundland ask to be switched to a stateside center.

The biggest is the old Media One call center in Chelmsford, MA and they can correct any problem at any US system. The centers in Canada will not have MLB control until sometime Monday morning.

Why Canada? Don't even ask.
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Comcast/MLBN SNAFU
written by John M., January 04, 2009
I'm in Nashville, TN 37214 with Comcast service. Had seen the claim that MLBN would be "free" for digital subscribers. Already having the digital starter package I thought I was set. My curiosity got me thinking so I checked with Comcast rep and was told I would need the "digital sports package". This was after convincing the rep of the difference between MLBN and MLB EI. So I signed up for the "digital sports package" for $5 extra, no big deal. At the appointed date and time for the MLBN launch I still had the blue screen telling me I was not authorized for that channel. After another call to Comcast (and talking to an even more clueless rep who I had to convince that MLBN actually existed)I was finally told that I would have to have "digital preferred" for an additional $16.95. So I drop the $5 sports package and add digital preferred with its 100+ digital channels. I wasn't pleased with the extra expense, although I can't say I was surprised, somehow the whole "free" with digital basic thing seemed to good to be true. It would be nice if people/companies would do what they say they would do, but I got over hoping for that a long time ago. Perhaps MLB will hold the cable companies to the agreement we are told exists. It all probably comes down to what "digital basic" is interpreted to be. Anyway, I'm glad that MLBN is on the air. Now I'll see if they are good enough to get $16.95/month out of me. I'm probably stuck with the "digital preferred" anyhow because my daughter really likes a lot of the other channels. Hmmm? Sounds like a good ploy by Comcast.
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written by aaron singer, January 04, 2009
John M, you were had. You DO NOT need anything more the digital cla*sic [if you get ESPN, you get MLB Network] to get the MLB Network. If the Comcast rep tries to tell you otherwise, tell them they are wrong. If they aren't cooperative, call back and speak to someone else. NFL Network you need the sports tier; NBA and NHL Networks you need more than whatever the initial digital package is, MLB you DO NOT.
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Channel 419: "Not Authorized"
written by Jon - Portland OR 97219, January 04, 2009
I have MORE than the digital basic package with Comcast Portland (extra HD channels and Starz), still, MLB Network "Not Authorized". No ordering information available.
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Works good
written by Bman, January 04, 2009
had no problems on launch date/time with HD feed. I am on long island 11706 zip and a (i can't believe im saying this) happy cablevision customer
Dana Taylor
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written by Dana Taylor, January 04, 2009
Comcast in Fresno (zip 93722) has added MLB Network on the Sports Tier, channel 412 right in the middle of the other sports tier channels. I won't be paying extra for just MLB Network. I'm very disappointed in Comcast, but then that's nothing new.
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written by aaron singer, January 04, 2009
Jon, they've been having problems where many customers who are supposed to be getting it are not receiving it. I still have the 'Not Authorized' when I try to turn it on. It is NOT on the Sports Tier and you DO NOT have to pay extra to get it. Comcast may give you the runaround, but know what you are paying for; complain until you get what you want.
Bob Timmermann
More from TWC
written by Bob Timmermann, January 04, 2009
A TWC service rep emailed me and told me that my area (South Pasadena, CA) has received the slowest upgrades of any TWC area because they inherited inferior equipment from Adelphia.

But Adelphia has never been my carrier. And I've lived here since 1992.
Bob Timmermann
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written by Bob Timmermann, January 05, 2009
And another update from TWC, another rep said they inherited some equipment from Adelphia that covered part of the area and my service area is too small to make major investments in improving service. The cities of South Pasadena and San Marino are about 45,000 people. I'm not sure how many homes that is.
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TW / NYC
written by mike s, January 05, 2009
I live in Manhattan and channel 174 comes in as blank. I have Time Warner's Digital TV service. I called and was told I'd need to add the Digital Sports Tier for $3.95/month. As much as I'd like to have MLB, I really feel this should be part of the basic service.
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written by John M., January 05, 2009
A. Singer, Was wondering if you've spoken to anyone at your Comcast who is truly knowledgable about MLBN? Also, have you been able to begin viewing MLBN without any changes to your cable package? I know what the MLBN website says about MLBN supposedly being available with no additional charge beyond basic digital. However, it appears that nationwide the cable companies don't know about it or, more probable, don't care. It's doubtful (realistically) that customer complaints can resolve this problem. They've got it and if anyone wants it you play by their rules. I'd say the only way this gets resolved is by pressure from MLB and/or lawsuits. If this gets in the courts then you'll be waiting a long time to get MLBN without going along with the cable companies. I certainly disagree with these tactics, but once again, I'm not surprised. It's supply and demand and we know who has the supply. I guess I'm looking at it this way: For now it's worth 56.5 cents per day for me to have MLBN.
Bob Timmermann
At least I learned one thing
written by Bob Timmermann, January 05, 2009
The whole MLB Network debacle with Time Warner made me realize exactly how shoddy the service I got from them. I was told that they had no real incentive to improve my service because my area was too small.

So I'm switching providers to AT&T. Which doesn't get MLB Network, but at least has a much wider variety of channels otherwise.
Maury Brown
When "Expanded Cable" Slid Into the Mix
written by Maury Brown, January 05, 2009
The biggest issue I'm seeing from emails, blogs, and this thread deals with how carriers are interpreting "expanded basic", which MLB Network now says is where the channel may be packaged ("digital basic or expanded basic, or equivalent"). This can lead to broad interpretation by service reps, or local carriers.

What is clear is that consumers are not being met with the same message across the country. It's poor communication. Where in the chain of command communication has fallen apart is the question.
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Comcast and MLB Network
written by densogirl, January 05, 2009
I live in Battle Creek, MI and am unableto access MLB network. I have the correct package. It's taken 7 phone calls to comcast and every one of them told me something different. I stopped into the local office and they said we didn't have MLB Network. I'm so frustrated, and so looking forward to watching this station.
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Comcast in 21113
written by Frank D, January 05, 2009
I have digital starter+the sports package and am also being told i have to upgrade to "digital cla*sic tier".

I'm not sure what I can do at this point...comcast refuses to budge on this and the mlb.com site doesn't really provide any place to 'complain' about accessibility issues.
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written by aaronsinger, January 05, 2009
John, the first person I spoke to didn't have a clue about MLBN.

The second person I spoke to, after asking her supervisor, told me that with the basic digital package [the most basic one with ESPN, etc.; I don't known the exact name of it], I should be getting MLBN, but that they were having some problems with people who should be getting it were not. She pa*sed my info on and said they'd be in touch. This was saturday, I have yet to hear back. I still don't get the channel--I suppose I could try resetting my cable box again, but who knows if that will work.
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written by Jon--97219, January 05, 2009
Just got off the phone with Comcast again... they were sent an email Jan 2 detailing who should receive the MLB Network. Apparently it was originally slated for the 'Sports and Entertainment' package(+$5.99/mo) but now it is included within 'Digital Cla*sic', one step above the 'Digital Basic' that is included within their $99 3 Play package.

Hope this helps others.
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written by Frank D, January 05, 2009
Well I don't understand how mlb's definition of "digital basic" doesn't mean the 'lowest' serrvice level...of course, comcast feels that way so everybody gets screwed. I'm reading on other forums that some comcast customers are being told it's on the sports package. Why is comcast a bunch of idiots all the time???
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Comcast disputes "digital basic" for MLB Network
written by Bob Brown, January 06, 2009
Talked to the famous Comcast Cares team via Twitter, later on email.

Pointed out the "expanded basic or digital basic or its equivalent" (from MLB Network) to them for my Comcast Digital Starter package.
Answer:
"No it is not the equivalent, but we would like to look into getting your the package that includes MLB."


My area, Washington, IL 61571 , has 3 levels of Comcast Digital Cable service. Listed from lowest cost to hightest cost: Digital Starter, Digital Cla*sic, and Digital Preferred.
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Compare with "The Golf Channel"
written by Bob Brown, January 06, 2009
On my Comcast system,
"The Golf Channel" is on analog "Standard Cable" and all digital packages.
But, MLB Network is only on "Digital Cla*sic" and "Digital Preferred".

Maury, how much of each network is owned by Comcast? How many viewers does each channel have, and how many fans does each sport have? It might be interesting to know, and contrast.
Joe Siegler
Still can't get MLBN
written by Joe Siegler, January 06, 2009
http://joe.siegler.net/archive..._tivo.html

I'm still without the channel. I've detailed my problems here.
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comcast again
written by aaronsinger, January 06, 2009
only help says MLBN only available on 'digital preferred' whereas I have 'digital cla*sic'

each person I talk to gives me a different answer
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written by aaronsinger, January 06, 2009
*online help, sorry
Joe Cornillaud
TWC in San Diego
written by Joe Cornillaud, January 07, 2009
According to TWC San Diego website, you must subscribe to the 'Variety tier' in order to receive MLBN. That doesn't sound like 'digital basic or equivalent' to me.

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written by stephend, January 08, 2009
if i were MLBN, i would be hot about all the misrepresentation going on about where and how to get mlbn through comcast. MLBN billed as being the most popular, they probably don't even know the way some of the affiliates are messing things up.

Is it available on basic digital or not? can you get it in the sports package or not? is it on 279 or 276? it is crazy how many different answers I have gotten. It is suppose to be on the "sports entertainment package" but they have not programmed it in yet.
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MLB Network in Phoenix on Cox Communications
written by Michael Rubino, January 08, 2009
I contacted Cox Communications and they stated that the channel (#175) is going to be rolling out to different areas in phoenix over time. I live in the 85048 area code and the Cox Representative said I should have the channel in about 30-45 days.
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Comcast in Richmond, VA
written by Tom Hopkins, January 08, 2009
I am pretty mad about this. I have Digital Starter with Comcast, seem to receive every major channel, pay extra for HD, and now I am told that I would need to upgrade to Digital Cla*sic for $16.99/month. What a farce.
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Comcast Digital Cla*sic
written by CubsWin, January 09, 2009
I'm also a Comcast Digital Starter subscriber and don't think it's right how Comcast has positioned this channel in their Digital Cla*sic package. At almost $80/month in my area (not including HD, DVR, etc.), Digital Cla*sic is FAR from a digital basic package. MLB Network is losing a lot of potential viewers due to this apparently extremely loose interpretation of their contract.
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TimeWarner in High Point, NC
written by Adam, January 11, 2009
Transcript of online chat:

Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:53:56 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

I understand you are having an issue with the MLB channel not coming in the channel lineups. Is this correct?


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:54:41 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

The channel says to call to order the channel but the channel was supposed to be added for free on January 1, 2009.


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:55:06 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:55:09 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

I will be glad to help you.


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:55:44 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Please give me a moment.


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:55:52 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

ok thanks


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:56:39 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

The MLB channel is on channel 144.


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:56:58 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Could you check whether you are receiving it?


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:57:14 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

right, but it tells me i have to call to order service. i'm tuned to channel 144 right now


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:57:59 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Please give me a moment.


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:58:08 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

it says the same thing on channel 573 which is the MLBHD channel


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:58:11 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

ok


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:58:47 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Please provide me the PIN set up on the account (normally the last 4 digits of the SSN).


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:58:55 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

(REMOVED FOR SECURITY PURPOSES)


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 00:59:12 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Thank you.


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 01:00:28 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

I apologize, since you have disconnected the digital variety, you are unable to receive the MLB channel.


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 01:01:37 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

You will need to upgrade to digital variety to start receiving the MLB channel in the channel lineups.


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 01:01:38 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Is there anything else I can help you with today?


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 01:02:08 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

that does not match the terms of service that the MLB Network provides which states that "f your video provider is affiliated with MLB Network, you will need to subscribe to digital cable at the "digital basic" or equivalent level of service"


William(Sun Jan 11 2009 01:02:11 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

http://mlb.mlb.com/network/about/faq/


Bobby Smith(Sun Jan 11 2009 01:02:38 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

For further a*sistance, please contact the sales department at : 1-877-566-4892 and we will be glad to a*sist you.
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Time Warner in High Point, NC
written by Adam, January 11, 2009
Just spoke with a different rep who told me I had to subscribe to the Digital Specialty Networks package which is an additional $10 per month. I already have the HD package and upgraded sports package as well as MLB Extra Innings. Now I have to pay $10 for this lineup (I already get all the other sports channels on the list):
Digital Specialty Networks
101Speed Channel
102TV One
103FOX Movie Channel
104CNN International
105Discovery Health
106BET on Jazz
107Discovery Kids
108The Science Channel
109The Military Channel
110The N
111FLIX
113Ovation
114Fuse
115CNBC World
116Sleuth
117Current TV
118Travel Channel
119Toon Disney
120SOAPnet
121BBC America
122Fox Business
123MTV2
124C-SPAN 3
125Great American Country
126Azteca America
127Fox Reality
128G4
129Bloomberg Television
130Gospel Music Channel
131Do it Yourself
132Lifetime Real Women
133Boomerang
134Biography
135History International
136Fine Living
137Family Network
138Planet Green
139Investigation Discovery
140ESPNews
141Fox Soccer Channel
142ESPN Cla*sic
143ESPNU
144MLB Network
145Daystar
147PBS KIDS Sprout
149GSN
565ESPN News HD
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Why can't you record shows on your DVR?
written by Dave in 94070, January 25, 2009
Sorry I know this is off topic but I have been getting the MLB network since the launch but the guide only says Major League Baseball and never the actual show that is on and you can not record to your DVR?

The Comcast guy I spoke to said, it is not a Comcast issue, MLB must not allow DVR recordings.

Anyone else have this issue?
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Still Waiting
written by EdinAZ, February 17, 2009
Still waiting for MLB Network here in Avondale, AZ in the Phoenix Area
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at&t 49509
written by pubis, February 20, 2009
can anyone help me out is att gonna pick it up
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TiVo box with Cable Cards STILL not receiving in Farmington Hills, Michigan
written by Alan P, February 24, 2009
My cable provider (Bright House -- owned by TWC) informed me yesterday that it's an issue with the cable card manufacturer (?????) which is Motorola. I get it everywhere else in my home except on my TiVo. Two months is ridiculous to get this figured out.
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Comcast and MLB Network issues
written by Jimmy, March 02, 2009
Last Monday Comcast informed me over the phone that MLB Network was taken off the air at 3 am. In order for me to receive the channel, I must subscribe to MLB EI at $99 for 1/2 season.
WTF????

Since the channel launched in Jan '09, my program guide was "blank". I phoned Comcast several times regarding this and they had no answer for my problem, except to reset my box/signal, etc...

Anybody else have a problem w/Comcast and this channel?

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