where can i get etodolac pills law and order svu liv undercover cheap himplasia pills cheap branded viagra online nexium drugs use orlistat without prescriptions acne medicine accutane actos where to get cheap celadrin rocaltrol online in usa buy depo medrol for dogs orlistat in india anastrozole vs letrozole bodybuilding where to buy abortion pill in uk can i order diclofenac no prescription in the usa zyrtec and birth control pills exelon by mail best generic trental sites finasteride in the treatment of men with frontal male pattern hair loss generic compazine prochlorperazine diflucan 150mg india blood thinner coumadin generic Purchase 1 pharmacy abilify generic can u buy viagra in canada levitra in usa can i get pregnant on methotrexate citalopram without prescription best places to buy side effects of zyvox in dogs can you order brand advair diskus drugs cheap donde comprar viagra sin receta costa rica how much benadryl is safe to take for sleep how to get off doxycycline buy brand cialis discount zithromax suspension dose for children purchase aciphex europe pharmacy como comprar cialis generico en espan~a alli available prescription what all is topamax used for prednisone 10 mg tablet price best place to buy suprax over counter abilify over the counter sleep aids without benadryl purchasing uroxatral online uk beconase aq drug oversea where to buy combivent with echeck buy augmentin xr online can you buy cardura over the counter cheap adderall online pharmacy clomid dose missed oral viagra jelly zyvox prescriptions does walmart sell over the counter inhalers purchase arava cheap plavix canada companies only kamagra gold discount drug market order metoclopramide femcare where to get what drug classification is lopid femara cost for infertility where to buy alligators care is depo provera 100 safe tinidazole without a prescription from uk how to take prednisone 10mg tablets what is craigslist yahoo cost of lotrisone buy coumadin canada tamoxifen drugstore pill identifier with pictures shop costco online without membership how to get procardia drug zithromax discounts codes buy parlodel australia define content validity what does abilify do to your brain buy effexor xr greece uk version of accutane tulasi no prescription compare prices alphagan 5mg tablets buy prednisone online now propecia 1 mg chlamydia medication names order adalat 20 pharmacy elavil for migraines headache low cost benicar levitra usage 20 mg levitra flagyl delivered to your home 3 day shipping on on-line drugs nitroglycerin sublingual tablets stability cost comparison pill propecia canada buy haldol australia buy brafix australia ipratropium bromide and albuterol sulfate inhalation solution ventolin comprar espan~a buy eurax cream online cheapest buy accutane online xenical de laboratorio roche viagra vancouver canada viagra professional store prescription cheap buy hyzaar 100 25 anafranil next day shipping can you buy haridra church prescription best price for retin-a micro gel tadalafil 10mg reviews prednisone buy india what is the generic name for plavix generic name for rosuvastatin can uk buy levothyroxine online clomid ovulation predictor test harga obat cefixime 100 mg benadryl tablets purchase on line how much food to take with celebrex chloroquine online legally 100 mg vs 50 mg viagra buy clonidine pills online lipitor generic uk ashwagandha tablets for weight loss rui cialis buy zocor generic how to buy duetact in london synthroid doctors online dapoxetine lawsuit settlements depakote tablets purchase on line how to use benzac ac 2.5 trazodone without a prescription from india cheap relafen sale uk ordering lipitor from canada treatment of coumadin toxicity nitroglycerin dosage for heart attack cheap place to buy alli order non generic aricept 25 mg viagra side effects augmentin price australia buy priligy in malaysia minocycline for sale philippines tramadol no prescription uk buy aspirin boots buy risperdal for daily use zolpidem 5mg price glucotrol side effects fatigue zebeta delivery buy cardura from mexico online comprar deltasone en argentina birth control pills lanoxin is it illegal to order generic aristocort cleocin cream over the counter genuine abana buy terramycin eye ointment uk liposafe where to get us online pharmacy no prescription depakote lady era tablets for sale best online pharmacies united states worldwide pharmacy lanoxin levitra best price levitra professional tablets for sale buy zantac hong kong tenormin online bestellen benadryl for sale what is wellbutrin supposed to do atorlip-20 discount voucher skelaxin price generic is generic neurontin available in usa quickest cefixime etodolac generic drug combivent inhaler price walmart no prescription retin-a 0,025 sale dutas pill canadian max dose zestoretic nhs cost simvastatin prinivil tablets from buy shallaki from usa pharmacy free discount prescriptions cards etodolac abuse pfizer viagra online euro pharmacy online percocet 512 overdose diclofenac canadian source cymbalta from mexico buy ventolin inhaler hfa glucophage xr available generic enteric coated aspirin generic name is trental a prescription drug buying chloroquine for dogs compazine side effects treatment atorlip-20 from canada bupron sr without script astelin order ultra low dose hoodia buy indomethacin uk buy unisom pills online ordering buspar online viagra in lagos nigeria cialis 20mg tablets uk viagra super active without prescription canada cymbalta tablets used side effects of ropinirole toprol xl no prescription compare prices lancet azithromycin bronchiectasis ventolin medication super scooter 1000 lithium over the counter anxiety medication for children donde puedo comprar malegra fxt low cost overnight bentyl can you buy nizoral at walmart what does paroxetine 40 mg look like renagel on the internet ordering medication alesse mg dostinex cabergoline tablets viagra pill canadian mircette side effects mood swings buy fml forte next day buy medrol usa roxithromycin on line for sale no script periactin reviews ordering snovitra super power here in canada where can i buy real viagra pills health canada calan allegra dose for dogs yasmin without prescription paroxetine for men in usa cardizem generic release date buy paxil without a script what are the most common side effects of celexa which uk site to buy proscar what does flonase corticosteroid nasal spray dulcolax usa order levitra canada pills dog anxiety medication clomicalm is there a generic for benicar hct what is ciprofloxacin hcl used to treat mail order live chickens buy alphagan online uk generic unisom online sales actoplus met without script no rx pravachol online buy doxazosin 2 mg what does bactrim do to bacteria canada drugs accutane with prescription norvasc prescription effects pariet discontinued safe micardis buy generic from minocycline indian generics online vasotec naproxen danazol to buy in australia generic levaquin for sale on line normal dose of prednisone for asthma best maxaman prices lioresal tablets for purchase how long does it take valtrex to work for cold sores xenical buy online mexico nolvadex buy mexico can you only get benzac on prescription buy cheap generic abilify u.k. online drug store without prescription buy adalat generic cheap pills catalog how to buy lopid in london cipralex overdose side effects viagra soft pharmacy online fincar online ordering levothroid.com phenamax order by phone stromectol precio mexico beat way to order prazosin mexican compounding pharmacy aciphex best price erexin-v in the uk cialis overnight shipping no prescription anacin pill shortage does minoxidil work minoxidil reviews cialis sublingual generic 2013 drugs bactrim online from uk cheapest risperdal in the uk what does toradol do to you medicament cialis 20mg prix amaryl medicine information onlain kino 2010 side effects of abilify in autistic children buy lioresal usa feldene generic release date effects of viagra medications no prescription nolvadex wellbutrin pills look like exelon echeck what dosage of prednisone for dogs best natural sex pills for women tamoxifen for sale where to buy liv 52 drugs online tetracycline for discount keflex medication uses using viagra and poppers buy cheap meds online no prescription best price diarex problemas de ereccion pastillas erythromycin discount no prescription aleve shop net order cytoxan canada where to buy alligator gar viagra samples free pfizer escrow refills review prednisone medicine cheap tamoxifen 20 mg long-term side effects of florinef snovitra super power shoppers drug mart cialis professional dosage instructions can you buy benicar fast worldwide shipping pharmacy grifulvin v generic wikipedia drugs diflucan dosage candida esophagitis beta-val generic liquid compazine review viagra singapore lamisil tablets uses duphalac canada prescription no prescription finast sale cleocin gel tablets 150 mg viagra plus not generic no rx noroxin online can you buy combivent in ireland illegal drug sales online what does risperdal do for children where can i buy cytotec in manila buy shuddha guggulu generic xanax anxiety medication side effects leukeran costco i pill arjuna website purchase tamoxifen in australia micardis over the counter better than nexium hydroxyzine hcl 25 what is cytoxan priming cytotec for sale cheap over the counter products containing sildenafil acquisto cialis sublingual sicuro online how do i pay by check online big round blue pill 224 water pills to lose weight yahoo answers seroquel indiana buy super viagra online dostinex store meclizine generic name how to take maxalt orally disintegrating tablets is.is loc:pt cardizem cd open capsules paroxetine prescription assistance depression buy orlestat online oregon state baseball score bystolic copay discount pain pills online cheap altace from usa claritin drug class pregnancy acheter pas cher lotrisone cheapest drug pyridium no rx celebrex what is luvox side effects where to buy sertraline online where to get prilosec pct roxithromycin buy canada generic exelon uk paypal zebeta uses medication pariet brand positioning Purchase accutane 10 mg isotretinoin floxin for men in usa side effects of casodex medication azithromycin single dose dosage cipro xr sale reviews on shatavari current price hytrin pastilla ciprofloxacino para que sirve mevacor buy online ireland para que se usa el serophene can you order hydrea order lopid medication by mail how long do you need to use accutane augmentin duo buy online endep tab 10mg 50 tc tetracycline fish diabecon costco pyridium 50mg tablets canadian trial erection packs 2 what does methotrexate do to the liver buy voltaren boots pharmacy aleve drug classification lopressor dosage iv where is lapland holidays glucophage dosage too high does voltaren gel come generic trazodone hydrochloride 50 mg street value side effects of ginseng for men keppra order by phone kamagra 100mg oral jelly india prograf mail order resources for prandin pulmicort for sale danazol woldwide shipping hydrochlorothiazide medications levitra professional no prescription pill 5mg nitroglycerin tablets prices tinidazole drug in mexico pharmacy ovulation calculator while on clomid brahmi pill canadian proscar 5 mg canada is aricept available in generic diltiazem hcl manufacturers in india seroquel 100mg side effects reviews on phenamax order dipyridamole drugstore world;s tallest healthy man is proscar available on line in canada how much is dostinex tablets buy combivent have no prescription order finasteride no prescription salep elocon untuk bayi buy generic finast online buy genuine remeron uk maxifort tomato seeds flagyl comprimidos dosis fml forte in croatia citalopram missed dose 3 days cleocin pharmacy pak drama online geo buy ginseng coffee australia buy clomid online at canada pharmacy ginette-35 for sale philippines can you take celexa daily acyclovir no prescription overnight shipping motorola visar lithium battery serophene bula cialis soft medicine online how much will duetact cost lasix dose in acute renal failure seroquel drugs like lasix side effect potassium celebrex class action lawsuit canada lexapro refills mexican pharmacy no prescription zestoretic non generic voveran sr nexium 40 mg sale can i take two 20mg cialis reviews on acai berry slim order exelon rx buy liv 52 online canadian alliance of dance artists on ontario chapter actoplus met cost reglan medication guide online sale of tenormin estrace tablets 2mg pulmicort brand positioning buy lexapro without prescription blue oval pill 100 imprint where can i buy viagra online india buy luvox 100mg online what drug category is cholestoplex costco reading times safe buy colospa online what is albendazole pills used for buy zyrtec hong kong cod comment acheter viagra quebec where to buy citalopram hydrobromide depo provera lawsuit 2010 generic from flovent order sodium generic diclofenac canadian diovan proventil pas cher italie cheapest flovent inhaler buy levaquin 750 what is the formula weight of aspirin brand name mevacor online buy allegra with drugs prescription tamoxifen shortage 2012 buy revatio online reviews motilium tablets uk endep from india tetracycline for dogs side effects prednisolone vs prednisone for cats dangers of pain pills and alcohol comprar ciplox online street value of seroquel 100mg health canada pilex plavix canada approval dilantin cheap canada pharmacy imitrex tablets for purchase tadalafil 5mg cialis benadryl allergy pills dosage orlistat global sales unisom sleep aid coupons abilify price canadian pharmacy alli generic reviews accutane pharmacy assistance programs how to order venlor what are the side effects of stopping fosamax walmart pharmacy hours in canada pharmacy cialis cheap no script elavil pills online in the canada no script zenegra mg online elevil side effects of zestril 5mg buspar online generic from finast beconase aq rx what does flonase fluticasone nasal spray trihexyphenidyl artane abuse
Home All Articles With Giambi Chosing to Speak, One Asks, "Why?"

Like Shoot to Thrill - An AC/DC Tribute on Facebook!

An authentic tribute of AC/DC that covers the best of the Bon Scott era and the best of Brian Johnson's material

Who's Online?

We have 656 guests online

Atom RSS

With Giambi Chosing to Speak, One Asks, "Why?" PDF Print E-mail
User Rating: / 4
PoorBest 
Articles & Opinion
Written by Maury Brown   
Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:59

A Biz of Baseball Exclusive articleToday, MLB announced that the parameters are in place to allow Jason Giambi to speak to former Senator George Mitchell about comments he made to USA Today – comments that vaguely reference prior steroid use when he said, "I was wrong for doing that stuff.” (select Read More to see statements by Commissioner Selig and Jason Giambi on the agreement)

Depending on how those parameters are set, Giambi’s decision might be viewed as coercion based on comments from Commissioner Selig last week as it’s fair to say he’s not walking through the front door willingly.

“Any admission regarding the use of illegal performance-enhancing substances, no matter how casual, must be taken seriously,” said Commissioner Selig at the time. “It is in the best interests of baseball for everyone, including players, to cooperate with Senator Mitchell in his investigation so that Senator Mitchell can provide me with a complete, thorough report. Discipline for wrongdoing is important, but it is also important to create an environment so players can feel free to honestly and completely cooperate with this important investigation.”

He then went on to say that any discipline would be determined after Giambi had completed his activities with the Mitchell investigation. Whether those comments create an “environment so players can feel free to honestly and completely cooperate with this important investigation” seems highly dubious. Maybe it’s me, but having a gun held to your head isn’t exactly going willingly.

As I will get into, however, MLB’s case for discipline or suspension is wafer thin. The “gun” in this case is loaded with blanks. With that, one can ask why Giambi is going through with this given the negativity that will greet him with his fellow players and the MLBPA.

The dance that revolves around this deal where Giambi will speak to Mitchell, can be viewed with some history behind it. There’s also the repercussions that would have occurred should he have decided to back out of any agreement to meet with Mitchell – would any fines or suspensions levied by Selig stick when brought before an arbitor? And, there is certainly an atmosphere that has come out of Giambi’s situation in the overall. Maybe “friction” would be the optimal word.

To start, let’s look at what would have happened if Giambi told MLB, “Thanks, but no thanks.”

(Select Read More to see the rest of this article on The Biz of Baseball

You have to ask yourself, “Why would Giambi want to speak to Mitchell in the first place?“ After all, he’s got history on his side in the form of Ferguson Jenkins and Bowie Kuhn’s 20-game suspension and $10,000 fine against him in 1980.

Jenkins was found to have cocaine and marijuana in his luggage when customs inspected it at the Toronto airport in 1980. Jenkins then refused to answer Kuhn’s questions around the drug bust, and shortly thereafter, Kuhn laid down the suspension and fines.

The key for Giambi is that there’s a correlation between his dilemma and Jenkins. Kuhn’s fines and suspension were overturned upon a grievance filed by the MLBPA on Jenkins behalf.

Arbitrator Raymond Goetz declared that based on the CBA, Kuhn did not have “just cause” to levy the penalties against Jenkins. Jenkins would have been incriminating himself and as Goetz wrote in his decision, “the commissioner was compelling Jenkins to jeopardize his defense in court.”

Giambi is still part of the BALCO investigation, which is being heard by the grand jury. Giambi could say that he cannot talk to Mitchell as he is still part of that investigation and in talking to Mitchell might be incriminating himself. Selig could fine or suspend at that point, but as was the case with Jenkins, a grievance would be filed, and there’s a very good chance the suspensions and fines would be overturned by an arbitrator.

All this aside, for whatever reason, Giambi has decided to speak to Mitchell. What might he say? And, does this impact his standing with the Yankees?

The parameters of what Giambi will be saying to Mitchell seem pretty clear: “Ask about me. Forget asking about other players.” These parameters were surely worked into place by the MLBPA who has legal counsel working with Giambi. Questions might include his comments before the grand jury during the BALCO investigation.

These issues seem to be the biggest ground rule in any conversation that would take place – ground rules, by the way, that reportedly the Players Association have not signed off on.

The bigger questions surround whether Giambi would have to specify whether he was actually talking about PEDs when quoted in USA Today, and if so, what was the timeframe he used them.

MLB did not have a mandatory steroid policy in place until 2004. 2003 saw the “survey tests” conducted that were used to determine if mandatory testing would occur the following year. If Giambi said that he did in fact use steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs, but it was before MLB had a steroid policy in place, fines and/or suspensions would once again have a very good chance of being overturned upon grievance.

Could the Yankees decide to void Giambi’s contract, should he say that he did indeed use PEDs during the time he was in a Yankees uniform? Possibly, but Newsday is reporting that as part of the parameters of the deal where he would speak to Mitchell, wording would be in place guaranteeing that his contract standing with the Yankees would not be in jeopardy for speaking to Mitchell – he would not hang himself by being forced to speak to Mitchell.

In the end, there are numerous questions on how Giambi’s comments play out in terms of labor relations; Giambi’s standing with the players, and the public.

How MLB fares is entirely different. At the very least, they will get an active player on-record for the Mitchell report, and Selig looks the part of the “proactive” commissioner.

The union cannot be happy with any of this. The moves by Selig and the background history laid out here shows that any harsh discipline would most likely be overturned. The move by Commissioner Selig reeks of public relations. By going the heavy-handed route, there is bound to be some pulling back from the cozy relations that management and the union have had recently.

The active players are probably not keen on the notion of Giambi talking to Mitchell, as well. They’ve held the ranks together on this issue, and by Giambi speaking to Mitchell, there is the appearance of a breaking of the ranks. The actions by MLB also will create an atmosphere in which any player that might have considered going public will now pull back and keep it zipped.

As for the public, America has always been forgiving for transgressions that were met with contriteness. It’s refreshing to see a player say, “What I did was wrong.” What MLB might be the most upset with was when Giambi said, “What we should have done a long time ago was stand up -- players, ownership, everybody -- and say 'We made a mistake.'" From that point, it moved from being “Giambi on Giambi”, to “Giambi on MLB being culpable” in how steroids have permeated the game.

All of this comes back to the “war on steroids.” While the Mitchell investigation drags out, Giambi makes his comments, and fans show up to Giants games displaying signs with an “*” on them, the use of performance enhancing drugs at some levels of the game appear the same. When Phillies minor leaguer, Matt Childers was suspended 50 games for violation on the Minor League Drug Policy this last week it brought the total of minor league drug violations to fifteen so far this season. By comparison, that total was not reached until July 20th of last season. The total for all minor league violations last season was twenty four.

Attendance has not been impacted (MLB is on-pace to have the fourth consecutive year where the attendance record has been broken), and television ratings are exceptionally high on the national level. Giambi’s case may show MLB is “serious” about steroids, but in the end, what the case may really be about is window dressing.

It's time to ask ourselves if this flogging of the steroid issue has run its course. What is being accomplished? We can all agree that PEDs should be eradicated from the game of baseball, but is the blunt force methods being applied really necessary?

Mitchell and Selig will get their active player to speak on the record.

Fine.

Publish the report already.

Until then, this issue will continue to fester which does no one any good, especially those in control at the Commissioners Office — those that seem hell bent on killing off what little goodwill has been fostered between the players and management recently.

The notion that a high-profile player was willing to come forth and say that he was wrong for using steroids — and by the way, MLB was wrong as well — is what the game needs. Shoving the voice of reason into a corner will only perpetuate MLB's image as a league full of uncontrite Juicers.

UPDATE:

MLB has made the announcement regarding Giambi and his meeting scheduled directly with former senator Mitchell. Below are statements by Commissioner Selig and Jason Giambi.

Statement by Commissioner Selig:

“Following certain statements reported in USA Today on May 18, I directed Jason Giambi to meet with members of my staff. Mr. Giambi did so and, in the opinion of my representatives, was fully cooperative and candid in explaining his personal involvement with performance-enhancing substances.

“Two weeks ago I asked Mr. Giambi to submit to an interview with Senator Mitchell and I am pleased that Mr. Giambi has agreed to do so. Mr. Giambi has informed me in a phone conversation that he is willing to discuss with Senator Mitchell his personal involvement with performance-enhancing substances. His willingness to do this is an important step forward in Senator Mitchell’s continued efforts to provide me with a comprehensive report.

“Senator Mitchell has assured me that Mr. Giambi’s interview will be scheduled promptly. Once the interview process has concluded, I will take Mr. Giambi’s level of cooperation into account in determining appropriate further action. I will have no further comment until this procedure is completed. ”

Statement by Jason Giambi by way of the MLBPA:

“Today, I have agreed to Commissioner Selig’s request that I meet with Senator George Mitchell.  In a direct conversation the Commissioner impressed upon me the idea that the game of baseball would be best served by such a meeting.  I will continue to do what I think is right and be candid about my past history regarding steroids.  I have never blamed anyone nor intended to deflect blame for my conduct.  I alone am responsible for my actions and I apologize to the Commissioner, the owners and the players for any suggestion that they were responsible for my behavior.

“I’ve come to this decision for a number of reasons.  I did not want to put my family through a lengthy legal challenge in support of my position.  In addition, the uncertainty of my playing status could detract from the efforts of our team to win the American League East.  My focus at this time needs to be on rehabbing my injury, getting back on the field, and contributing to the goals of my team.  To be embroiled in a legal battle could undermine all of this and I would never put my family, my teammates, or the Yankees in that position.

“Accordingly, I have agreed to this meeting.  As I have always done, I will address my own personal history regarding steroids.  I will not discuss in any fashion any other individual.  My hope is that this meeting will serve as a positive step, as all parties involved seek the best approach in dealing with the issue of “drugs in sport.”   That has always been the intent behind all of the comments I have made on the subject and it remains so to this day.”

Maury Brown is the founder and president of The Business of Sports Network, which includes The Biz of Baseball and The Biz of Football (full launch coming in July). He is a contributor to Baseball Prospectus, and can be contacted here. 

 
 
Banner

Poll

Should MLB Force Jeffery Loria to Sell the Marlins?